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My perspective on masturbation is that it is not normally detrimental to gains except when having overtrained your penis through PE your masturbation afterwards aggravates the damage already done. Masturbation undeniably places some stress on the penis and while it won’t be as much as a PE exercise, if you have overtrained that day or the night before it may well be enough to push you over the edge into injury land. Just my theory.
Why is it true?
I typically try to stay out of the masturbation debates, but a lot of things affect gains, imo. As of right now, I don’t have a lot of evidence for masturbating affecting gains. I have the PE survey, but that’s it.
I’ve been working on a theory of why I think masturbation affects gains. I don’t know how sound it is. But when I post it, I will let everyone here decide.
What I don’t understand is why we are saying masturbation does or doesn’t affect gains, or in any case, that it does. West once told me that he doesn’t disagree with the idea that masturbation could affect gains. However, he feels that everyone should worry less about not ejaculating, and more about PE. This makes sense, but why can’t individuals make their own choice about when they ejaculate? I mean, this line of thinking is why PE is “underground.”
I once asked my doctor why he thinks PE doesn’t work. He sat down next to me and said, “We don’t think it doesn’t work, we just think it is better off if everyone thinks less about their penis size and more about other things.”
As everyone here knows, we, as individuals should decide if we want to think about our penis size. Not the doctors.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but this is a humour post. He isn’t really doing an experiment so much as rationalizing his masturbation in the name of science :)
Good laugh. These forums are educational and fun.
What the? Yes dude, I am really doing this experiment and now I’m here to update my progress.
And also for the guy that wanted to state that it was rather ejaculation rather than masturbation that affects gains, well OK fair enough… I mean I’m not gonna jack off and then reject the idea of cumming man. No Way! I just generally thought people would know that I will ejaculate after the party.
So!
The Masturbation Experiment - 2 days in progress
Lol, sad part is that I masterbate 2 seconds after I finish jelq’ing, I CAN’y RESIST!
2 seconds after finishing Jeqling? Dude, you better get it under control otherwise I’m pretty shore…. YOUR FUCKED! :)
Masturbation before and not after PE’ing. That is what were doing here. Take note dude.
Day 4 of the experiment and well, yeah everything seems ok still. I mean it passes.
I’m interested to see how this works, thanks for volunteering yourself. How many times per day will you bust your load? Some of us *ahem* liked to do it 2-3 times before getting paranoid about it’s effect on PE after reading that PE survey thing..
Still, I don’t think it will prove much. You could have 2 guys doing the exact same routine and only one of them will gain due to countless factors (some of which I believe to be self image, attitude, nutrition, overall level of health, supplements, hydration..).
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LOL - great post.I’ve read that your testosterone levels tank for several hours after masturbation. If having elevated testosterone levels aids in penis growth then perhaps it will help. I doubt it. But if it MIGHT help then I’m game. I’m going to do everything that I even remotely think might help because the end result is worth it.
Keep us posted on how it goes. And send us an ftp link to your porn collection when you are done :)
I dont think this is true. When you ejaculate your body releases Prolactin. This hormone represses the effect of dopamine, which is responsible for sexual arousal, thus causing the male’s refractory period. The amount of prolactin can be an indicator for the amount of sexual satisfaction and relaxation. Unusual high amounts are suspected to be responsible for impotence.
Prolactin levels may be checked as part of a sex hormone workup, as elevated prolactin secretion can suppress the secretion of FSH and GnRH, leading to hypogonadism, and sometimes causing erectile dysfunction in men.
Therefore if GnRH ( which stimulates the testicles to release testosterone) is suppressed then testosterone levels can only be reduced!
Interesting thoughts people made here… well we shall see…
Anyway, this is my 7th day on the job [which would be my 2ed rest day, because I’m doing a 5 on 2 off workout] and I came twice yesterday [about 6 hours apart] and yes, I came twice today as well…
On days 1-5: I came once everyday about 5-6 hours before I was due to PE. I think it went well. I also measured up and I’ve still got my 0.2” that I gained - so that was good! And although my penis feels a little worn out [right at this moment], I shall look to see what tomorrow porn movies will bring!
To Summarize the week
Hmmmm? looking at this list it kinda highlights what my penis has been through this week… but it was OK mostly. Once or twice I might of felt like my penis had taken enough for the day, but I still PE’ed fine enough.
On with the experiment!
I think I should add this today. For the first time, in a long time today, I woke up without an erection… well I did jack off x9 last week and Jelqed & stretched the hell out my dick, I guess this could be a minor side effect..
This is all trash talk. You guys just like masturbating a lot and don’t want to have to stop. Sure, there might not be anything wrong with masturbating, but god, you’re like the government. Tell the whole damn story… don’t EJACULATE after work-out.
Ejaculation triggers a series of chemical reactions and changes in your penis which allows it to effectively counter and expansion based gains you may have gotten during your previous work-out.
This is a fickle thing because in reality masturbation in the form of edging is actually significantly beneficial for gains seeing as it really pumps up your penis.
So the rule is:
“Masturbation with ejaculation post work-out NOT beneficial, Masturbation without ejaculation post work-out IS beneficial, and masturbation with ejaculation that does NOT occur post work-out is a neutral action and has shown no loss of gains.”
Can we all agree on that?
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Do I want to masturbate? well?
I’d like to report something here guys at this stage of the experiment. It is now coming to the end of 2 weeks on this and I think I can now see the effects of masturbation on PE’ing… Yesterday while I was PE’ing, about half way into my workout [200-250 reps of 500] my erection level moved down to about 30%. Yep! I did Jelqs the rest of the way with about a 30% erection…
Bummer.
I think I may have been over-masturbating. So I am now going to move the experiment to masturbating 3-4 times a week. In the last 2 weeks I masturbated about 14-17 times or so and I think it had a negative effect on me. It was like my penis was tired and worn out.
So a slight change at this time, but I’m still on it!
- At least now we can confirm that masturbating everyday don’t pass with PE.
I'm pissed of with my gains and loses. I've been doing this for more than 4 years. I keep measuring wrong and the next time I update my signature you will see impressive results.
I dont think this is true. When you ejaculate your body releases Prolactin. This hormone represses the effect of dopamine, which is responsible for sexual arousal, thus causing the male’s refractory period. The amount of prolactin can be an indicator for the amount of sexual satisfaction and relaxation. Unusual high amounts are suspected to be responsible for impotence.
Prolactin levels may be checked as part of a sex hormone workup, as elevated prolactin secretion can suppress the secretion of FSH and GnRH, leading to hypogonadism, and sometimes causing erectile dysfunction in men.Therefore if GnRH ( which stimulates the testicles to release testosterone) is suppressed then testosterone levels can only be reduced!
Would this increase my “pron-ness” to prolactin gyno (aka bitch tits)? Another words if kid masterbates to much would he have more of a chance of producing bitch tits?…
With each ejaculation one releases zinc. Zinc I fundmental in testosterone production. So keep up the zinc intake 15-75 mg per day with a healthy dose of vitamin “C” about 500-3000 mgs per day to prevent testosterone from converting over to estrogen.
How many times a day should one masturbate to be part of the experiment?
Does edging count? I went from 5’” to over 7” in less than a year I jerked off after every jelq session. I don’t think masturbation affects gains in a negative way. Should one jack off dry or with a lube?Slow or fast?