Viagra and pe gains{the missing link?}

Has anyone fairly young tried viagra and your thoughts on it?

I’m 20 and the use of viagra as an aid in PE seems very promising.

storm

If I was you I would hold off with the viagra and see what gains you can get without it first.

Dino

Dino 9x7,

I agree with you on most ginseng. It had done nothing for me until I got my Malaysian ginseng, Tongkat Ali. It is working better for me than my Pfizer viagra prescription. Multiple hardons, night wood, ready to go anytime of day. It isn’t like any supplement I have ever tried. Also, it doesn’t give me any side effects. I can’t even do stretches in a warm up routine without getting rock hard after the first few pulls. Forget twirling my dick round and round.

After I cum, I am still rock hard and ready to go for round two. Also, I don’t need to have sexual thoughts to get a hardon. Rub and scratch my balls a little and I am on my way to rigid.

Probably won’t work for everyone, but I got my $20 worth on the first bottle and it lasts for a month. I am sold on this. I have taken it for 10 days.

Hmmm… thanks for the comment on the ginseng, I was gonna buy one of them. Now it’s for real.

c-ya

The drug guru weighs in:

Repeat after me:

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS take Viagra (or its generic equivalents) on an EMPTY STOMACH. Presence of food has a big (negative) effect on Sildenafil.

I am not sure of how easily Sildenafil is misformulated, ie, how easy it is for generic companies—especially in countries not known for their quality, put politely—but that doesn’t seem to be a problem, so it looks like y’all can order generic/offshore Viagra with a high degree of confidence.

Pharmacology trick: Sildenafil competes with other drugs for a common metabolic pathway in the liver, called the P-450 cytochrome system. The P-450 cytochromes can only clear drugs in what is called a zero order rate, meaning at a fixed rate like a ticking clock. If you introduce other drugs or chemicals that clog up the system, the blood levels stay elevated longer because the “sink” is plugged up temporarily. Tagamet, or cimetidine, is a common, cheap, safe drug that can do this (plug up the P-450 sink). If you take 800mg (4 x 200mg) cimetidine roughly the same time as your Viagra/sildenafil, blood levels will be elevated 58%, according to Pfizer’s website in the professional section. Its a neat little trick of the trade, and you can probably get 100mg of performance out of a 50mg dose, for instance.

Note on 25mg dose: recent research has showed that the 25mg dose cannot exceed its own placebo effect, and therefore Pfizer has discontinued it, still making the 50mg and 100’s of course.

Any questions about this, let me know.

Regards,

Southpaw

Ordered mine from Genegra on the fifth of June and haven’t received mine yet. I did get an email today from them asking if I was satisfied so I’m hoping to get them any day now.

Thanks for the reply tps. I might have to wait then. I ordered mine on the June 10. Did you order the samples or more?

bigone0749

I will look for some of that ginseng, thanks for the tip.

guys

The best way to take viagra is on an empty stomach, but to also take a 50 bite off half chew it up and rinse it down, than swallow the other half. It seems to work faster. Warning it tastes like chalk

Dino

maxwell, I only got the samples. I am looking at this as a recreation possibility. My girl can go and go and go and I’m looking to keep up ;) I can last thru an orgasm or two of hers if I’m lucky, but the look on her face is just too much for me to hold off any longer. I’m hoping this will let me keep going. I’ve told her I’m trying to orgasm her to death:chuckle:

Dino,

I agree. When I take viagra, I just bite off a 1/8 - 1/4 (12 - 25 mg) chunk of the tablet and let it dissolve under my tongue, then rinse down with water. Warning: it tastes terrible. But I’ve grown accustomed to this. I can feel the “V” kicking in within minutes.

Peforeal

Where can you get Tagamet (cimetidine)? Do you know how much it costs. How long are the blood levels elevated for? What happens if you take other medications at the same time you take Viagra (allergy meds)?

Tagamet/Cimetidine is available over the counter, it’s an antacid med… Works well too :)

That’s pretty cool with the tagamet, you get even hornier and you have no indigestion:D

Southpaw, any chance acetomeniphen or other pain reliever would work like the tagament? If it did, you could offset a potential side effect of the viagra/generic…

When using the tagament to get 100mg type effect out of 50mg dosage, do you also get 100mg dosage side affect potential?

I got my 64 x 100mg Caverta yesterday. I took 1/2 of one and it worked without any unwanted side effects. I’ve been taking about 25mg per day for the last few weeks as part of my PE program. I hope that it’s helping.

The only thing I can complain about the Caverta is that they aren’t designed to be broken in half like Silagra is.

edit: Just wanted to mention that I ordered from Genegra.com the first week of June and got it in just over 2 weeks using regular registered mail.