Wearing a clamp around your entire package

I think clamping behind the balls is a good way of getting Varicocele .

Not a nice thing to have.

Well, but it does increase blood flow by restricting it, the same way it does for the penis—that is, for a brief time, the amount of blood flowing in is greater than the amount flowing out, creating a little pressure on the blood vessels in there, increasing vascularity over time. The regular clamper has bigger, more prominent blood vessels in the penis and I think it’s fair to say the penis of a regular clamper probably gets more blood on a regular basis—both flaccid and especially when erect—than that of a non-clamper. Although this isn’t exactly my goal, imagine for a moment we wanted more “veiny” balls (not like varicocele, but with just more prominent blood vessels)—why wouldn’t it work the same way it does for the penis?

I am going to proceed very gingerly here, and again, I’m not recommending it. I just don’t know that we need to scare everyone away from even considering it.

So where exactly does the varicocele appear? It’s like a big, distended blood vessel alongside the vas deferens? Or is it closer to the actual testes? You blame a tight cock ring worn around the balls, correct? Would you say that when wearing that your balls had the appearance of distended veins before actually resulting in the varicocele? Was it something that developed gradually or did it happen all at once as a result of going too tight/too long one time?

The scrotum is merely a container for the precious items within it. Increasing the veins on the scrotum will only make it ugly (from a gay man’s perspective). The veins that drain the scrotum are different from the ones that drain the testicles. Clamping scrotal/testicular veins will not improve their function or appearance and may lead to sterility, a thrombosis or varicocele.

The difference is that the penis is supposed to retain blood. Clamping the base of the penis traps it in the CC and, as you said, briefly produces a difference in inflow vs. outflow thus causing the desired increased pressure. The testicles and scrotum have no method to deal with reduced blood outflow except by enlarging the veins. Enlarged veins do not mean that you have improved blood flow. It actually means you have a blood flow problem.

They’re your balls. Destroy them if you must. No one else should look at this method as a good thing.

Well, how would it be different, for example, from doing a headstand everyday? Certainly a headstand causes a temporary increase in the pressure on blood vessels in the head, and, over time, will cause the blood vessels leading to and in the head, such as those visible in the neck, to grow bigger and more prominent. I think the average yoga practitioner actually gets more blood flow to their head on a regular basis, as a result. Now certainly being upside down so long as to damage the blood vessels or make it difficult for your brain to get oxygen would be bad, but aren’t there cases when a temporary increase can be good? Also, just based on a visual, it does look to me like my scrotum, at least, is getting more blood on a regular basis as a result—that is, it’s not just that I can see some blue veins better (which at this point do not look distended or unattractive, imo), but that the whole package looks a little more ruddy, so to speak—similar to how I find my face has more color from practicing Yoga and headstand-type stuff every day.

The cause of varicocele is basically the same as with any other varicose vein, i.e. a leaky valve allowing backflow, correct? Could a temporary (like <5 minutes) increase in pressure cause this kind of valve problem?

I understand your strong opposition to the behind-the-balls clamping and am not trying to convince you otherwise—I’m more just trying to think through the various mechanisms at work myself and find your medical knowledge helpful.

There are several points that you’re missing and it’s due to a lack of knowledge of the anatomy involved.

Standing on your head does not increase blood flow or oxygen to the brain. The blood entering and leaving the brain is strictly controlled. The brain is very delicate and the body does its best to keep the flow and pressure of blood steady. It compensates for positions such as the one you describe. While the neck veins may temporarily distend due to higher than normal pressure, they are not permanently changed. Besides, veins drain blood from the organs and arteries send blood to them. Enlarged veins do not indicate increase inflow of blood or a beneficial change in circulation to the organs.

Restricting outflow from the testicles and scrotum by clamping will not increase inflow. It only causes a backup in pressure that is not good. Varicoceles are not caused by vein valve problems. The testicles, like the ovaries, are formed in the abdomen. They descend into the scrotum prior to birth (normally). But their blood supply still originates in the abdomen and actually has a long and tortuous path to reach them. Varicoceles are thought to be caused by compression of the veins along that pathway (see: http://emedicin e.medscape.com/ … 438591-overview ). Added compresson of the veins by external clamping can only make it worse.

BTW, here’s a graphic that might be of interest: Scrotum & Spermatic Cord.jpg

Clamping scares my penis.

Ironically, I think my penis likes clamping a lot more than hanging. It’s taken a while to get used to hanging, which feels a little more unnatural. Clamping just feels like having a really hard erection, which feels kind of good.

Yeah, clamping is a bit of an issue for me.

On the one hand it feels great and give one the sense of HUGE DICK for a few minutes at a time, but on the other apparently it detracts from length gains, which I really want most (I`m already 5.5” in girth, if she can`t get a grip on that, it`s her problem!).

And regarding clamping the entire dick, I think, if your dick responds positively and adapts well to the stress then why not?

Like anything else in PE you have to experiment to see what works for you and what doesn`t.

Very well said!

Very True. It took me a long time to realize this. But I couldn’t prevent the damage. It gave me severe grade varicocele on my both testis. I’d to undergo a surgery.

Like most things here people get different results doing similar things.

I’ve been clamping behind the balls for years with zero problems ever, but that doesnt mean you Will.

Like everything else here, proceed with caution.

That’s the truth. I can’t stand it for more than about 10 seconds. It feels like I’ve been kicked in the nuts.

Could I have developed this grade 3 varicocele on my left testicle from using a 2” c-ring around my hole package for longer periods of time?

I never clamped btb, never used a 4,5cm wide ring around the whole package.