Why so many big guys?

EvolvingFlesh - one of the things that prevents 7” girth from being “ideal” is that fact that almost no one can get that size cock in their mouth. Oral may not play a big part in your situation, but for a lot of guys it’s an important part of foreplay or, in the case of us gay guys, a mainstay of our sexual encounters.

Try this. Take a sheet of paper and make a mark seven inches from one end on the long side of the paper. Taking the top edge of the paper (short side), roll the sheet into a tube with the top edge touching the line you drew and tape it. You’ll have (in the U.S.) at tube of paper 8.5” long and approximately 2.25” in diameter (7” girth). Now try to put it in your mouth. Since your mouth is probably larger than a woman’s you can see where this might be a problem.

I want to know why guy’s who worry about the size of their penis are said to be “irrational” or suffer “irrational anxiety”. What is so irrational about it?

I think it’s a very real fear, and one that shouldn’t be blown off like that so as not to deal with it.

I started out at 7.5 x 6. I’ve been doing PE for about 3 months so I guess I am a newbie. My reason for doing PE is simple I want a bigger dick. That way if I do run into someone with a bigger wang than mine it is because their’s is a monster not because mine is average, or just above average.

my goal 10 EBPL x 6 or 7 girth. I don’t worry too much about girth because I can get it over 8 if I pump for 45 minutes or so anyway.

Ok, I may draw some ire for this response, but here goes. My notion is that oral sex is not as pleasurable for the woman as many men may believe. So the question becomes, is there a certain style or kind of fellatio which is better (more on this in a moment)? As well, I don’t believe that fellatio ought to be about the man receiving most of the pleasure. It should be a turn on to both the woman and the man.

In light of these statements, I argue that a woman not being able to get a cock that is 7” around in her mouth is irrelevant. Why? Because, I believe women (and I’m looking for some feedback here from women obviously), would be most pleased to suck on the tip of a very large penis rather than to deep throat a penis of any size in the crucial initial stages of foreplay—and I emphasize initial. In other words, my belief is that women are more apt to enjoy fellatio if the emphasis of the activity is for them to see, feel, and touch a very large cock rather than to eventually deep throat it. Fellatio ought to be about her wanting to tongue and kiss a cock like an ice cream cone rather than to necessarily put her whole mouth around the damn thing. If deep throating becomes something that a woman wants to do, I argue that this occurs naturally as a result of her being excited by the very look and feel of your cock. In other words, guys, at that point you and your partner are about to experience a truly blissly lovemaking session. In this way, a guy’s cock becomes a truly sensual object and the entire experience remains well-contextualized in the manner described above, marked by mutual pleasing through and through (and who could argue with that?).

Hence, fellatio can be overrated, or more to the point misunderstood, if the approach by men is one of self-pleasing, unintentional or not. So, here’s my controversial point: for those men who enjoy pushing their lovers heads down on their cocks, so that they might be deep-throated, ought to consider that this may be a sign you have a smaller penis in conjunction with a self-pleasing mentality, defined as not being as concerned about pleasing your partner in the first place. That is not to say that all men with small penises have this mentality (as well I argue that men with larger cocks are also apt to this mentality but note the nature of the discussion here—fellatio and question of deep-throating). In any event, I argue that this mentality is marked by a correlation of wanting a woman to deep throat, of desiring to push her head down on you, and then, when it comes to intercourse, to cross that gray area where it becomes more about you getting off rather than achieving true lovemaking.

Conclusively, it should be about building a symbol of pleasure and virility not a weapon or mask that disguises one’s insecurities. With the latter case, you may be apt to be cheated on more than you might think—regardless of your size.

I have never had a comment about it being small or anything dramatic like that.
But when im having sex with women I just cant help the feeling that they are dreaming about something bigger.
I feel that im not enough, 8 is not that big if you feel insecure about your self.
I have this feeling about everything in my self, so no wonder that I was really into bodybuilding few years back, now im just trying to keep my body above average.

Sometimes when it is hard I look at it and it looks huge 5 minutes later its the same size but I look at it and I feel like a midget.
My size is mental as much it is physical.

What is so irrational about it?>>

Nothing. The ones that are saying it have their own issues. They are not comfortable with the prospect of inadequacy and its easier to not deal with it and put others who are looking at the issue down.

Wow…where to begin…

My understanding of your thoughts here is that it’s up to the man to enlarge his dick solely to please his woman because to keep his dick small, and enjoy being deep-throated because it is more easily able to be taken orally, is self-pleasing?!

I’m hoping your feelings on this are not common…it’s a bit cruel I’d say. Don’t you think that average-sized and less-than-average-sized men feel inadequate enough without accusing them of now being selfish because they’re not doing something about it? Those of us on this website are the ones dealing with the perception of our penis size…no one else. Perhaps there is some truth to the arguments I hear about girth size being more pleasurable to the female but we have got to stop coming up with all these wild excuses for doing this other than our own personal satisfaction. And by the way, it’s okay for us men to be a little bit nice to ourselves occasionally.

As far as fellatio goes, as a gay man who can relate to women a lot, during this sex act, I’m certain that a woman would get just as frustrated as I if deep-throating were out of the question because it was just too large. Is a blowjob strictly self-pleasing to the one on the end of it? I don’t think so. Think of how pleasing it is for you men licking pussy. Your whole focus is on pleasing your partner and what a turn-on that is for you! Imagine if you will that, for whatever reason, you were limited to how you could please her orally. This is how it could be for your partner when she’s blowing you. It shouldn’t be a chore for her trying to get the damn thing in her mouth. That to me is selfish…you’ve made yourself too big for her and now she feels she can’t please you (and I’m talking about the majority of wonderful women out there who look at sex and love-making as something beautiful to share with a man and not as a sport).

I’m all for PE. I think it’s incredible that we’re onto something here but let’s try not to get carried away with the notion that we HAVE to reach some monstrous goal.

My personal encounter with PE:

I just started a couple days ago, at a BPEL of a little over 7” and an EG of 5.6”. I had no idea how I compared to the rest of the world. I just turned 18 and I wanted to make sure my girlfriend was happy. Another big issue for me is my feet. I wear a size 17 shoe, and people expect big things from me. Girls constantly ask me about my penis, and I am feeling a bit insecure as most guys would in my position, no matter what their size. I’m right at average I believe and I didn’t want girls to be disappointed.

peace

I don’t think I ever felt, since reaching puberty, inadequate about my size. I started pretty much at the “ideal” size: 8” x 6”. I started PE to get my hard erections back. When my penis started to get bigger, this was a plus. I’m much bigger now, but, why not keep going? I’m having a good time of it. And the Mrs. isn’t complaining.

HH

Yep. Face it - nobody likes being “average” (be it height, looks, wealth, intelligence, body, penis). I’d like to know that if I ever met a woman who wasn’t satisfied with my cock it was because she was a freaky size queen - not because she’s had “big,” and “big” felt a lot better than my “average.”

P.S., The family of one of my friends has been in the (legal) gun business for years. His dad’s motto about “why” somebody would want a gun was simple: A gun is like an insurance policy - better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it.

I’d say that a big dick is similar.

Well put. I like that.

I would say I started at a good size 7” x 5” now 8” x 5.25” (after 12 months).

The reason I PE, is the same reason I go to the gym, learn a new language, try a new business idea, etc. It is, that self improvement is a way of life.

I agree with the guys who say that 9 x 6.5-7 is closer to the ideal size than 8 x 6. I think that 8 x 6 is a more attractive size to view as “ideal” simply because it’s smaller and therefore, more easily achieved. And also, because most of us are uncomfortable with the idea that most women are capable of taking, and enjoying, quite a bit more than we’re currently packing. The more they’re capable of taking and enjoying, the worse we feel.

For me it is simply being going from above average to large. I started out at 7.5 x 5.5. When you are so close to the 8x6 goal why not go from above to really big? My wife is perfectly happy with my size and tells me it is not so big she cannot have fun with it. I really don’t like that comment at all. The extra I desire is really not for performance as she comes like crazy now, it is just pure eye candy and a little more grunt for her! ;>)

current: 7.5BPEL 5.7EG
desire: 8.5BPEL 6EG

Lets face it! Its not until a girl says “damn thats a big dick” that you realize you have a big dick. And that feeling only last a couple of days. The truth of the matter is that we as guys see our dick everyday and it looks the same size almost all the time. And we arent happy with that. My starting size was around 5.5 by 4.75 now im around 6.5 by 5.25, but does it look the same? Sorta. If it wasnt for a ruler I would swear its the same size. Im sure most of the big guys feel sort of the same way, and its probably the same reason guys starting goal is something like 8 by 6, but when they reach it they keep going. Finallly were men, we always need a little extra something in outr life. Why not a little extra buldge in our package?

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