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Considering buying an extender

Originally Posted by UpTo7
From what I understand, extenders need a lot of time to work. Since I work 6-8 hour shifts, this should be no problem. Obviously, comfort and stealth are my main concerns here because I’m surrounded with a lot of people.

Are there any dangers in exposing the glans to vacuum for that long? Even if it’s only 1 kg force, we’re still talking about multiple hours without break. What about blisters? Is there danger?

I’d also like to hear experiences from other people who have used an extender surrounded by a lot of people and how it worked out.

If I manage to make it comfortable, reliable and stealthy, I’ll try to wear it for 8-10 hours a day.

Here are my thoughts.

I used a strap device with only the vacuum head piece of monkeybar’s auto-exender (an early one from about 2005) and silicone sleeves from another source. A Vac-ADS set-up, if you will. It gives you a variety of positions and possibilities a few seen ~ here.

You NEED an inner sleeve (or what monkeybar calls an anti-fluid cone ) under the vacuum cap and outer sleeve over the cap and up the shaft. Some recommend using tape on your glans before putting on the inner sleeve (anti-fluid cone), but I never used the tape. I didn’t find it made any difference and it was a pain to put on and take off. Even with an inner sleeve (anti-fluid cone) protecting your glans, when that kind of time is involved you will see edema build up in your glans. It’s normal, just don’t go overboard with it and give yourself blisters. Blisters REALLY suck and take a long time to completely recover from. Usually they are the result of too much force (tension if you are using it as an ADS with a strap, weight if you use it as a hanger). Under low force that shouldn’t be a problem - unless you have an unrealistic idea of what constitutes "low-tension."

Next point: There is no "we're still talking about multiple hours without break." You have to take breaks. Even without considering the need to pee and assuming you’ll be using relatively light tension, if you are talking hours at a time you will definitely need to give yourself a few minutes to regroup and regenerate and have an unobstructed supply of fresh blood warm you up and restore you a bit. I found the 90 minute to 2 hour mark was the most common time where I’d need to get up and head to a bathroom stall in the men’s room. In an eight hour shift you’re talking about four sets if you are super-efficient but, realistically, probably more like three two-hour sets. Which, I should point out, is a lot. It’s nothing to sneeze at. You do it five times a week and you’re really stretching for a long time.

As far as comfort goes: Advil will be your friend, as will Traumeel or some form of arnica gel or cream. I found the gels absorb a bit faster. In the bathroom breaks a little light jelqing with this will ease some of the low-level pain and soreness that inevitably results. It will soothe you a bit. I should say that the vacuum suction is one of the very most comfortable ways to accomplish such a long term stretch, in my experience the only one that’s comfortable at all, really. But as the hours go by it gets sore, plain and simple. No way around it.

It’s true that if you have the Vac-ADS pull upwards or to one side or the other, rather than straight down, that you don’t have to worry much about what pants you wear. It is likewise true that when wearing this sort of gear you will have restricted movement in some fashion or other. When I pulled straight down I would wear baggy pants and just try and stay at my desk as much as possible. I suggest testing out your device and set-up at home (with different outfits) extensively before bringing it to work.

On this last point: in a public place you are going to have maintain your composure. Especially if something goes wrong.

And things will go wrong.

The more you can be casual and act as if everything is normal the better off you’ll be. I worked at a busy law firm for over a year with approximately 200 or so folks on my floor and a lot of open work cubicles around. I would strategize getting up to go to the men’s room so that it would be the least conspicuous - even with baggy pants, walking could sometimes be somewhat revealing; I had to walk slowly. I also made a point to make eye-contact, smile and say hello. It’s disarming and it makes people look up at you (and not down), which helps to keep them from noticing anything strange.

Sometimes work would intrude and I wouldn’t be able to take a break - when I really really needed to. You will have to adapt.

I had some other challenges too. I had a security station I had to pass through on entering the building, this is one of 9/11’s most pervasive and lasting impacts on New York City. There was metal detector that I had to pass through. I adapted my Vac-ADS set-up so it had no metal. Just plastic parts, silicone and some athletic padding to protect my legs from chafing.

I also made sure I could adjust the tension from my pocket or through the material of my pants. Likewise I had an emergency plastic clip at my knee that I could undo, through the material of my pants, at a moments notice.

All this aside here’s what I did.

Monday I would wake and hang with Bib hanger. 10 pounds for 20 minutes. Then I would shower, using my pump in the shower under light pressure, get dressed and put on my Vac-ADS set up. I’d ride the train for 30 or 40 minutes. I get to work and usually go to the men’s room and re-establish circulation, re-apply the Vac-ADS, then go to my desk and work for 2 hours or so. Usually I’d have to pee, which adds to the soreness and sort of naturally signals that a break is needed. I’d go take one. Maybe some arnica gel would be applied around this time. Let it soak in to the skin and then re-apply the ads until lunch. Advil was usually needed by then. I’d eat and do another set. If it was getting REALLY sore, I would give myself permission to take a break from it for a half hour or so.

Once I got my system worked out, the train ride was the most risky part as there was no way to get away to privacy. In the work setting you can usually make a bathroom excuse if you really need to. On the subway there’s nowhere to go. That’s why I had the emergency release clip, but that just releases the tension, it doesn’t let you free of the vacuum, which can get uncomfortable on its own.

That’s my 2 cents. I did it for several months and gained about a quarter to a half inch in length. It was a lot of work, but it did work.

Your mileage may vary.


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Wow man, thanks for detailed reply. :) Where do I start…

Danger of fluid build up, deformed glans (even if it’s only temporarily) and, the most important of all, blisters is what’s driving me away from vacuum based extender.

That’s why I’m considering 9_in_richard’s approach which can be seen here.

I’m not sure how can noose material (cloth instead of silicone) make such a drastic difference, but I’ll take his word for it.

I realize that I need to take breaks, but that’s not going to be a problem because I have plenty of breaks during the shift. To be more precise, several 5 or 15 minute breaks for a total of 30-60 minutes depending on shift length.

Obviously, I’m going to wear it at home before I get used to it. I don’t want to experience at work anything that I haven’t experienced at home first.

Also, I’m going to start with 2-3 hours at first and then work my way to at least 8-10 hours, but that’s going to take time so I get used to it properly.

If extender alone gives me 0.5” of length in whatever time frame, I’ll be happy because 0.8” is what I need to reach my goal.

Again, thanks for taking your time to write such a detailed reply. :)

“I’m not sure how can noose material (cloth instead of silicone) make such a drastic difference, but I’ll take his word for it.”

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My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Originally Posted by UpTo7
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Danger of fluid build up, deformed glans (even if it’s only temporarily) and, the most important of all, blisters is what’s driving me away from vacuum based extender.

Fluid build-up happens. It’s actually nothing much to worry about and the ‘deformation’ of the glans is very temporary. Usually snaps back in 5 minutes - maybe as long as 20 if you put in a rigorous day of stretching. But if your break schedule is regular and you warm yourself up from time to time during the day, the glans should be all right fairly quickly. After the train ride home everything was back to normal for me.

As far as blisters, I got one once and it was when I tried using it as a vac-hanger. I put on 15 lbs and sort of forgot to monitor my time carefully. I left it on for about 20 minutes - mostly because the vac attachment is so much more comfortable than any compression based hanger, such as the Bib, I sort of forgot.

The blister was a huge pain and took a long time (months) to heal, in which time I did no PE. It did, however, teach me the wisdom of ‘less is more’ in short order. If you are doing all day stretching you won’t use anywhere near the amount of force I did when hanging.

As far as wearing an actual extender, plastic base, rods and all…

In my experience they are much more unwieldy. I would agree that the only way to wear one in a public setting would be in the ‘up’ position, but even that way it will have a dramatic impact on your range of motion. Those damn rods just won’t give, you know? And if you drop something you will find bending down to pick it up will become its own little comedy. You just won’t be able to move normally. At all.

If you can make it work, go for it.

I think you’ll find that the Vac-ADS is more flexible (literally), and that has many advantages especially if you’re thinking about trying to use it in a public setting, but see what works for you.


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I bought a MaxDoctor extender after reading some reviews on Amazon. It is also very affordable. It is a noose type but you can also pay extra to buy the strap. I use AutoXleeve and the silicon protector is very comfortable. It is like some gel cushion. It is made by the same company of VacExtender. You can get one around 60-70 USD. Or just a cheaper extender and get a silicon protector (about 20 USD).

Oh one more thing. No one notice when I wear it at work. I wear boxer brief, a tight fit one, to keep the extender in place. I do have a hard time walking fast. Definitely do not try to run when you have an extender on.

Is the redi-stretcher still available? Their we site is still active but they do not answer emails.

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That didn’t take long. :)

Vacuum Cap Extender With Water

Check out the website:
Be sure to watch the movie on the right, it shows everything from A to Z
(The guy there is hanging a 5l bottle to the device and swings it around!).

I just got mine a few days ago, and I think I can safely say that for me it’s THE penis extender.

That does look like a nice vac hanger !

Should be easy enough to mount onto a normal extender.

Originally Posted by horiapintea
Check out the website:
Be sure to watch the movie on the right, it shows everything from A to Z
(The guy there is hanging a 5l bottle to the device and swings it around!).

I just got mine a few days ago, and I think I can safely say that for me it’s THE penis extender.


I would classify the product as an all day stretcher and not an extender

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