All my gains came from the old penis master almost and inch no manual stuff at that time.
Best pump is the bathmate the claims are crazy on the web site but the pump does kick ass use water as a liquid solid this lower fluid build up and unlike regular pumps your size in the pump stays like that for hrs after with out a cock ring I am going to use it 3 per week with my clapping work the day I am not jelqing
Clamp 10 min
Bathmate 10 min
Clamp 10 min
The last clamping session is huge
Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5
Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5