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Is It All Just a stretched Suspensory Ligament?

Originally Posted by Mik3
Right now not sure, measured half month ago, it was 19.1cm BPFSL (started around 16.5cm) and around 17.7cm BPEL (started around 17cm), so around 1 inch or 2.6cm BPFSL and .7 to .5cm BPEL. BPFSL grows faster and I’m waiting for my BPEL to catch up with my BPFSL, it’s really slow, so be patient and constant.

Best of luck.

What traction level are you using?

Originally Posted by Rhinoguy
(igigi:) “Science resembles more a religion/cult than anything else.”

Wow. That’s the opposite of the truth. Try submitting your next research study containing statistically thorough data and interpretations to the double blind peer-review process conducted by your leading science publication. You should see how free from bias that process is after that experience. Your report will be torn to bits by multiple scholars who do not even know you. If its any good it will still be corrected for accuracy, and if its not then forget it you will not get it published. The whole point of the scientific method is to remove personal opinion and bias from the determination of provable scientific fact. If you think science is a political farce like politics is, then you have some serious study to do. Science is designed to be repeatable, rigorous, beyond personal opinion and unaffected by culture, religion, politics, or anything else. There have been fake studies before, but they are by far the minority of what goes in the science community.

Tell that to Fauci please. Then we talk.

Mainstram scicne is a cult and a religion. Under the mind of an average scientist, “if we cannot prove it, it doesnt exist” WRONG.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by damianromante
Is nutrition science a thing?

What I don’t like is how something is “recommended” as the new healthy option then later reversed. Is any of this subject to the scientific method or are nutritionist just lone wolves espousing ideas.

Examples: Back in the 90’s bodybuilders were all about carbing up. Fast-forward to today and many from that period struggle with diabetes, obesity, and heart issues. More recently, soy milk was all the rave in the mid 2000’s (2005-2009). Then it became a no because of it’s impact on estrogen levels. Was any of this subject to the scientific method or no?

I’ve long (six months ago) come to understand that the issue with PE is it that success may not be repeatable. So no doctor is going to put, at a very minimum, his/her reputation on the line for it.

Well first of all, take bodybuilders out of the equation for recommending nutrition lol. Specially in America, a bodybuilder is the definition of a loser, and the vast majority of them never even went to college.

Besides that, the “recommendations” come from Allopathic MD. And average MD has 6 months of nutrition in medical school. Thats it. He has no knowledge nor training in nutritional science for a very simple reason. Is not his/her field. That is why.

Does nutritional science exist? ABSOLUTELY, and the field that covers that is Naturopathic Medicine. That field of medicine is the one that research and study nutritional science and have all the data to prevent, manage, reverse and cure chronic symptoms and diseases while optimizing health overall.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Hey guys. I’m Brazilian and I have some questions to ask you here. I would like you to explain to me what this BPEL and BPFSL is. I get confused but I found that this BPFSL is more effective. Please help me translate this.

Hey @Luck020

Try here: Glossary


Start: BPEL: 7” MSEG: 5" | Current: BPEL: 8.25” MSEG: 5.75" | Goal: BPEL: 8.5” MSEG: 6"

1st Goal: 7.5" x 5.5" | Achieved: 01/15/2021 | 2nd Goal: 8.25 x 5.75 | Achieved: 05/19/2021

Progress Pics: Road to 8x6 | My Log: Daros PE Notes and Progress Reports | Routine: Hanging with FIRe

Originally Posted by luck020
Hey guys. I’m Brazilian and I have some questions to ask you here. I would like you to explain to me what this BPEL and BPFSL is. I get confused but I found that this BPFSL is more effective. Please help me translate this.

BPEL = Bone Pressed Erected Length. O significado, e o tamanho do pau duro midindo desde o osso pubico.
BPFSL = Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretched Length. Novamente midindo desde o osso pubico, mais sem erecao e puxando na piroca o maximo possivel.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
BPEL = Bone Pressed Erected Length. O significado, e o tamanho do pau duro midindo desde o osso púbico.
BPFSL = Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretched Length. Novamente midindo desde o osso púbico, mais sem erecao e puxando n / D piroca o máximo possivel.

Thanks bro. It’s all cleared up for me now.

No bro, it’s really not just ligaments stretch.
My penis has got more veins and the old ones are bigger, also head and girth has increased. I believe on cell proliferation theory. The problem is that it takes time, growth happens after healing. Mine has gotten bigger in a whole thing. IMO isn’t just lig stretch.

Igigi your Portuguese is great!👏👏

Def. more vascularity.


Start: BPEL: 7” MSEG: 5" | Current: BPEL: 8.25” MSEG: 5.75" | Goal: BPEL: 8.5” MSEG: 6"

1st Goal: 7.5" x 5.5" | Achieved: 01/15/2021 | 2nd Goal: 8.25 x 5.75 | Achieved: 05/19/2021

Progress Pics: Road to 8x6 | My Log: Daros PE Notes and Progress Reports | Routine: Hanging with FIRe

Originally Posted by Mik3
According to my own experience, the erection angle remains the same for me, using the extender for 5 - 6hs/day, 5 days a week for around 7 months now. I may even say erections are even harder. I use half the time pointing upwards and half of the time pointing downwards.

Best of luck.

What are your erect length results, if you don`t mind me asking?

Edit; Saw that you`d answered that already. I have some doubts about the possibility of the erect gains catching up to the flaccid gains. Might be that you need to clamp or something post-flaccid gains in order to achieve this? But I haven`t seen any reports of people gaining first FSL and then having the EL catch up. (with extenders) Maybe it`s the corpora cavernosa that needs to be stimulated to grow, to sort of fill in the penis, with other types of exercises like clamping.


Last edited by Johnnyvee333 : 08-10-2021 at .

Originally Posted by Edubrsurf
No bro, it’s really not just ligaments stretch.
My penis has got more veins and the old ones are bigger, also head and girth has increased. I believe on cell proliferation theory. The problem is that it takes time, growth happens after healing. Mine has gotten bigger in a whole thing. IMO isn’t just lig stretch.

What’s the recommended healing time for stretching using extenders? I hear some say no need for rest days since penile tissue is not the same as muscle. Some swear by 1 or 2 rest days per week. Any views on resting duration to heal?

Originally Posted by igigi
Tell that to Fauci please. Then we talk.

Mainstram scicne is a cult and a religion. Under the mind of an average scientist, “if we cannot prove it, it doesnt exist” WRONG.

Wow! You have trouble with pretty basic stuff like spelling and science. Are you an antivaxxer too?


Started Oct. 2010 7.0" BPEL

Currently May 2021 7 3/4" BPEL

stopped counting after 1,700 extending hours

Originally Posted by Rhinoguy

Wow! You have trouble with pretty basic stuff like spelling and science. Are you an antivaxxer too?

Very kind of you to point that out. Did that make you feel better?

Getting back to the original question, I do think the suspensory ligament is a big part of the program. If I were to ballpark it, I would say it’s 40 to 50% of the changes that happen.

Originally Posted by Tim_Topple
I came across a few sources that seemed as good as any, saying penile lengthening is basically just stretching the suspensory ligament at the base of the penis. This lengthening will work but your erection will aim lower due to a lack of support from a loosened suspensory ligament.


Suspensory ligament stretching is definitely PART of penile lengthening and I would even venture to say that it’s a significant part of it. Cell mitosis or cell proliferation are also part of PE and are contributing factors of what makes PE gains permanent.

I started PE 01/2021 with a BPEL 6.0” and MEG 5.1”. By 11/2021 I had 7.5” BPEL and MEG 5.6”. I have only done extending (quick extender pro), so if it was only suspensory ligament stretching, where did my girth gains come from?

I did hit a plateau and didn’t make any additional gains for about 8 months and it wasn’t until I decided to focus on stretching the suspensory ligaments that I was able to finally start making gains again.

And yes, stretching the suspensory ligaments will most likely change the angle of your erection.

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