Penis extenders & septum

Are devices like AutoExtender and Andropenis effective at targeting the septum, or is it more to stretch the tunica?

Thanks :-)

Sorry for the dumb question, but what are you meaning with the word ‘septum’? Septum septum pectiniforme ? Why would you target it? Maybe it could be a good idea attaching a penis anatomy pic to explain which area you are referring to.

Maybe I don’t know exactly what it is, but when I stretch my penis, it’s restricted by what feels like a hard cord in the middle. My understanding is that this is the septum. And the tunica is the area surrounding it. Or am I wrong?

As far as I know stretching the septum is usually more difficult. That’s why you get V-stretches. But seeing the extender stretches in one direction, it might not be very effective.

http://www.anat omyatlases.org/ … late14277.shtml
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The penis is formed primarily of three cylindrical masses of erectile tissue. Note the paired corpora cavernosa and the ventrally placed corpus spongiosum (corpus spongiosum urethrae) containing the urethra. A dense collagenous tissue capsule, the tunica albuginea, surrounds the corpora cavernosa. This capsule fuses in the midline to form the pectinate septum, which is thickest and most complete near the root of the penis. The tunica albuginea of the corpus spongiosum is thin. Each corpus consists of a network of cavernous vascular sinuses lined with endothelium, separated by fibromuscular trabeculae composed of connective tissue and smooth muscle fibers.

The three corpora are encompassed by a common, loose connective tissue fascia rich in elastic fibers and a thin skin. Note the dorsal vessels (arteries and veins) of the penis, located in the fascia, which are part of the complicated blood supply of this organ. "
Same link.

I’m not an anatomy expert, but I guess what you are taking as your septum is your dorsal vein. I don’t see any point in enlarging the septum either.

That goes beyond my knowledge. All I know is, this hard cord(don’t see a vein being that tough) in the middle of my penis is what’s preventing it from stretching any further. So it just makes sense to stretch that first before the tunica can stretch at all.

Have a look at the V-stretch section here A Quickstart Guide to Manual Exercises

V-Stretch effectiveness aren’t linked to pressure on the septum - I doubt that they focus tension on septum, how they could? Their effectiveness come from the fact that you can use more pressure than with regular stretches.

Even if septum was your ‘limiting factor’, it wouldn’t make much sense pulling it, being the less deformable thing in the penis; it would make more sense grabbing a greater area that when pulled would transfer more tension to the septum. Imagine your penis as build like two bicycle inner tubes, connected together with a thicker tyre; would you pull on the thicker tyre to elongate the whole thing, or would you do the adverse?

V-stretches do exactly that, target the Septum. I can feel this when I do them. That’s because you introduce another point of contact on the shaft, not just pulling it outwards from one direction. So pressure is being applied directly on the shaft vs the body. Does that make sense?

I think you might be missing the point of targeting the septum. My penis can stretch as far as the septum allows it to, no further. Whether its V or normal stretching. There’s physically no way of stretching any other part of the penis without first stretching the septum. I think in the majority of cases, the tunica is targeted in normal stretching excercises, but what if the tunica is longer/more stretchable than the septum?

It feels like we’re re-inventing the wheel here. I thought this was common knowledge?

Ok, I’ll post another pic, then let you believe whatever you want.

Look at: it seems unlikely that you can feel your septum from the top, since there the two chambers are fused; what many believe is the septum, is actually the dorsal vein.

The ‘septum is limiting my gains’ is kinda an axiom never verified, so, maybe instead than reinventing a wheel that probably was never invented, probably we are disproving a myth.

I do my V-stretches from underneath, and that’s where I feel the septum. I can feel the same stretching to the sides as well.

Can the dorsal vein be that tough that it feels like a very firm piece of rubber in the middle of the penis. So tough that it’s near impossible to stretch it? It’s much harder/firmer than anything else in the penis when stretching.

Marinera said it:

“Imagine your penis as build like two bicycle inner tubes, connected together with a thicker tyre; would you pull on the thicker tyre to elongate the whole thing, or would you do the adverse?”

You have to stretch that thicker tire, whether you are somehow getting heat into it, and using fulcrums up and down the entire length before there will be any appreciable stretch.

For many of us attempting to achieve significant growth in the tunica, it has to be done.

I have myself done fulcrum hangs with a 3/4” wooden dowl, up and down the shaft. Moving every 10 minutes an inch or so, with the weight hanging down.

What I have not done, and I believe it will be effective is a similar fulcrum movement, but to the side.

The thicker harder tube is actually in the middle of the shaft, preventing anything else from stretching at all, including the tunica. I don’t know how else to explain it. I know what the pictures are saying and I understand the bicycle tube. My penis is however soft on the outside, with a hard cord in the middle. This cord is shorter or less expandable than the tunica so how can I stretch the tunica if the cord cannot physically stretch any further? This is not a vein. Am I an alien? I’m hoping others have the same as me and would speak up here.

Tried doing a search? It was somewhat a popular topic some years ago, if I’m not wrong.

The septum being a limiting factor in PE is well documented. I know for a fact from reading others posts going back many years that not everyone has this but some do.
The quickest way to find out if you have it is to do a V-stretch and see if you can feel the thin hard cord in the middle of your shaft. It’s very obvious and feels indestructable.

Hey guys, I may be wrong, but is what is being referred to the seam or raphe that runs from the scrotum up to the glans?

I stretch the raphe by holding my sac down and pulling my dick skin from the base -up. It does seem to be like a cord of skin

or tendon , that I want to stretch to get my foreskin back, equal to the top part of my dick. So I look un-cut.

I think I know what you are referring to. Can you feel the cord more from the underside, or from the top?

The septum is the portion of the tunica that is enclosing both of the spongy bodies, however it has both deep and superficial structure. Wikipedia describes the superficial structure as a single tube of fibers (imagine a sheath and oriented longitudinally) enclosing both spongy bodies. The deeper structure is fibers that lay at right angles, if you will, to that sheath, like little ringlets within the sheath. Where they meet, one would assume there is a natural ridge or prominence.

Wiki says this : “the deep fibers are arranged circularly around each corpus, and form by their junction in the median plane the septum of the penis.”

Which makes sense since “septum” is literally a divider , a “hedge” in latin. Just like the septum of your nose can be described as the longitudinally oriented structure dividing the sinuses, the penis septum forms that division down the middle that is so common in mammalian structures due to the bilateral symmetry.

I have an extender, and like you I have noticed the sensation of a rigid internal structure, it is certainly part of the tunica , it might in fact be due to the septum structure itself. But the answer I would give is that technically, when using an extender you are pulling on the very shaft itself, (the tunica), so some portion of the pulling force must be applied to it. This is the only real theory behind hanging as well. Growth or stretching through time and weight.

As for targeting sub structures of the tunica, I have to confess I don’t know how that internal anatomy responds to this kind of force. I know that in general these fibrous sheaths and that type of tissue don’t stretch much, by design. Enough to accommodate erection, obviously. What the capability beyond that is, I wouldn’t venture to guess. The success stories of hangers are testimonials to the fact that stretches can produce gains, so there must be *some* additional room for stretching or growth.

I think you should investigate the role of heat too, many who hang and stretch swear this is the secret to gains.