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Phallosan Forte: 6 Months Test

Originally Posted by Penimei
LightningZee,

I think that they state on their official info — they have advised me the same via email — that using too strong of a pull would cause an inflammatory reaction and that would be counterproductive. Now, I’m not so certain about the scientific reasoning, but that’s their claim regarding the expected results, based on their experience. I got the impression from your post that you were going too strong, as you mentioned pain and “The official PF team state to make sure not to go into the red “red means stop” and to stay in the light green section, or the end of the dark green. However if you ask me, more force - more gains”

BTW, they also mention that taking finasteride/propecia might delay gains, something I 100% agree with.

BTW2: there’s this chart around by someone who took statistics of available data on the forums and came to the conclusion the peak benefit duration is 11 hours per day while somehow combining with pumping. Obviously biased and what not, but it’s somewhere on the forums.

Yes, they said the same to me. I do not believe it is accurate though, as lately after using it their way failed, I have been using it on 4x the recommended maximum force for a total of 200 hours now and still absolutely nothing, other than slightly dry foreskin. No inflammarotry response whatsoever… Thankfully, I guess. Also, It certainly feels more pliable now down there, though no measured gains at all still.
Yep, before I was going for upper-yellow, slightly into the red. They told me to go barely into the yellow at most.

Interesting, they did not tell me this. I also do not take any kind of mediactions though :)

You may have seen one of my previous posts about this, in which I deduce the optimum time is between 11 - 12 hours and using the BM enhanced the results. This was based on both several articles I read, some of the proposed scientific studies on the PF and also a huge chart I came across somewhere, however the validity of it is questionable.


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

I don’t understand why Propecia would in any way affect gains. It lowers dht by around 50% it’s still within normal limits. Even Dutasteride at high dose can not bring dht to 0, only 90% lowering at the absolute maximum. Dino9X7 used propecia, Chris from Good Looking Loser, no effect on gains. And Ronielle from Chemical PE among others recommend using propecia in cycles for more gains because it sensitizes dht receptors (according to his theory, no actual results or research says this). Taking propecia does not even take you outside the normal individual variance in dht levels. Some men convert almost all testosterone to dht, some men convert a smaller amount… It’s only when you have complete absence of 5 alpha reductase from a disease where you completely lack the enzyme that people get micropenis. Just a small amount of DHT is needed for the penis to grow to its maximum genetic size and at adult age it is questionable if dht is even needed at all for penis health, certainly adding dht via steroids does not in any way increase penis size.

Also many guys that definately dont have the high-dht phenotype have huge penises like Danny D (not much beard, perfect hairline) and some guys who have very high dht charecteristics have small penis.

Intelligent stuff above, but I am not involved in the chemical aspects of PE so have very little to say here. Just realised how much I actually suck at keeping a blog/thread/log up to date, but here are my stats and re-iteration of information.

26 weeks in total wearing the PF.
Had 4 unscheduled days off in this period due to two concerns: dryness to the extent of cracking of foreskin, and excessive edema on two occasions.

Of these days, 644 hours the PF was worn “incorrectly” at too high of a value. I.e, it was too forceful being in the yellow - red section.

Further to this, an additional 700 hours were spent wearing it “perfectly” as completely understood by the PF team who replied to when I said I saw nothing previously. After this, still, I saw nothing at all. Absolutely zero change, except in terms of temp Flaccid and SFL which seemed improved.

Frustrated with this, I have since modified it to tug 3x harder than designed, and I keep this on for 12h per day. I may resort to using the SizeGenetics during the day and the PF as an ANS (all-night stretcher).

Also, all sources I can personally trust have also told me they have gained nothing at all. _Nothing_.

My opinion is the PF is a BS contraption that at best is an anti-turtling device. Not that I have a turtling issue, so I cannot actually say. I guess this is me, still being optimistic.

Bottom line: Don’t buy this PoS. If you desperately want one, get a cheaper knock off online that does the exact same thing. They work on the same principle


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Was waiting for your conclusion. Thanks for taking the time.

What’s your next move?

Originally Posted by mourningwood
Was waiting for your conclusion. Thanks for taking the time.

What’s your next move?

I will continue with my jelq and gentle Uli routine and the high-force PF mod for a further 1000 hours. This will total around 2200+ hours, if nothing is gained at all by then i’m done with this.

Have you tried the PF? If you’re on the line about buying it… Don’t buy it!


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Originally Posted by LightningZee
I will continue with my jelq and gentle Uli routine and the high-force PF mod for a further 1000 hours. This will total around 2200+ hours, if nothing is gained at all by then i’m done with this.

Have you tried the PF? If you’re on the line about buying it… Don’t buy it!

I think there is something inherently wrong with the pf that makes the force/pull inconsistent and thus no gains.

Its very sad to spend an additional 1000hrs on futile phallosan wearing. Those hours could be spent gaining an inch of sfl in an extender.

Originally Posted by HenrikL
I think there is something inherently wrong with the pf that makes the force/pull inconsistent and thus no gains.

Its very sad to spend an additional 1000hrs on futile phallosan wearing. Those hours could be spent gaining an inch of sfl in an extender.

Yep, I agreed with you there ^^
I think my mod can hopefully negate this.

It is true, but my SG extender is not with me at this time, and I wont have it for at least 2 months when I return to my home.
It sucks enough to have wasted the time I have so far. I will be right down their throats about this, going to try my damndest to get my money back here, just as soon as I have some more free time to tackle it properly. Wish me luck!


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Originally Posted by LightningZee
I will continue with my jelq and gentle Uli routine and the high-force PF mod for a further 1000 hours. This will total around 2200+ hours, if nothing is gained at all by then i’m done with this.

Have you tried the PF? If you’re on the line about buying it… Don’t buy it!

It was something I was interested in, but couldn’t justify the cash for it. Well I hope for your sake, another 1000 hours brings results.

Originally Posted by mourningwood
It was something I was interested in, but couldn’t justify the cash for it. Well I hope for your sake, another 1000 hours brings results.

Thanks, I am really going to be hoping too, but I don’t have much expectations at this point… It really is a waste of time and money, and rather inconvinient. Don’t put yourself through this and learn from my mistake :)


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Originally Posted by LightningZee
Thanks, I am really going to be hoping too, but I don’t have much expectations at this point… It really is a waste of time and money, and rather inconvinient. Don’t put yourself through this and learn from my mistake :)

Well, thank you for showing us it is exactly that, a waste of time and money.

Is this your opinion for all ads devices?

Thanks so much for your diligent efforts. You’re saving everyone a lot of time and money! I already tried it half assed and was going to try it again to be sure. Now I’m not!


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Originally Posted by mourningwood
Well, thank you for showing us it is exactly that, a waste of time and money.

Is this your opinion for all ads devices?

I can chime in and say that also for me ads usage (using a device to ”heal extended”) does nothing positive, no gains on its own and it doesnt further gains from more intense pe either. That is my experience over several months of testing.

In my opinion what works is the proven methods, stretching, using an extender and penis weight hanging. What you do in between doesnt matter and with the right intensity you wont need more than 1 hour twice a day if that of real intense PE.

I took 3 days off just out of curiosity, my improved flaccid hang has already returned to normal.

Originally Posted by mourningwood
Well, thank you for showing us it is exactly that, a waste of time and money.

Is this your opinion for all ads devices?

It absolutely is that - waste of time and money. Although I cannot judge all ADS devices based on the results from this one, I would believe it is likely possible to extrapolate them due to their similar mechanics. To perhaps ve more clear with my answer - indeed I do not think an ADS that does not force the tissue into elongation but merely puts it at it’s natural stretched length can ever yield any gains.

Originally Posted by Steinroid
Thanks so much for your diligent efforts. You’re saving everyone a lot of time and money! I already tried it half assed and was going to try it again to be sure. Now I’m not!

You’re welcome S, and thanks for appreciating the effort I went through. I assure you my results are absolutely accurate and I really went through a lot of effort here to try. I doubt anybody else would be able to replicate the strict adherence I went through here… Quite frustrating though - 7 months of effort of constantly adjusting that thing around 10 times per day, removing and reattaching every time I needed to pee, checking very regularly that the tension was still correct… And that’s not to mention making sure people don’t see it. It sure does bulge out the hip area a fair amount. And the negatives? 12 hours of discomfort each day, slightly discolored foreskin top 1 inch.5 (which may resolve over time, too soon to tell), dryness and a puffed area of foreskin that was caused by repeated, daily edema. This may go, I am not yet sure.

Originally Posted by HenrikL
I can chime in and say that also for me ads usage (using a device to ”heal extended”) does nothing positive, no gains on its own and it doesnt further gains from more intense pe either. That is my experience over several months of testing.

In my opinion what works is the proven methods, stretching, using an extender and penis weight hanging. What you do in between doesnt matter and with the right intensity you wont need more than 1 hour twice a day if that of real intense PE.

I would agree entirely with your first paragraph. It seems we experienced something identical from tackling it in two different directions. Thanks for this info ^^

As for the second thing you said, I would have to disagree there. I don’t think anything at all is proven when it comes to PE. I just hear a lot of claims and see a lot of ambiguously angled or edited photos.

Nonetheless, I think sometime in the coming year I will not actually do my girth training as planned, but return to work on length in a different way. The Phallosan Forte is bullshit to get actual length gains, but I may be able to use it to help cement anything that comes from other ways of PE. If this is indeed how things work. The theory is tight, but who really knows


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Take a few weeks off and start with a basic stretch and jelq routine my man! Once you have dialed in your jelq technique with time, and even manual stretching, I’m sure you can break this plateau you’ve been striving to defeat. Sometimes it’s the little things, and less can be more.

Sorry to shift the thread, just wanted to give a few cents towards my best regards.


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Originally Posted by Makehergocrazy
Take a few weeks off and start with a basic stretch and jelq routine my man! Once you have dialed in your jelq technique with time, and even manual stretching, I’m sure you can break this plateau you’ve been striving to defeat. Sometimes it’s the little things, and less can be more.

Sorry to shift the thread, just wanted to give a few cents towards my best regards.

Yes you need to stop wasting your time with the phallosan. With an extender you would see stretched flaccid gains on a weekly basis. That is a real rod based extender.

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