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Bib might have some competition..lol

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Bib might have some competition..lol

I came across this and wanted to see if anyone has heard of him or used his hanger set-up. I have the bib-starter already and thanks to CaptnHook
we all have another option as well. But this guy make some big claims..
Maybe just a good laugh, or maybe he got a super hanger/program.

http://www.newo ptimal.com/Syst … m/Overture.html

For anyone with any erect penis size ,the Optimal System will allow you to achieve the following goals:
-Permanent Lengthening of your penis of an additional 1 up to 4 inches guaranteed.

-Permanent Increase in the thickness of your penis by up to 35%.

-Eliminate premature ejaculation.

-Turn a curved penis (Peyronie’s disease) into a normal one.

-Increase your libido and sexual potency to your personal best.

-Improve general sexual performance and prolong duration of sex.

All those goals will be achieved with 45 minutes hanging time a day 5 times a week with the system and the methods and techniques explained in great detail in the Optimal Manual,


All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward.

Did I miss something on that website or is there not a clear picture of this device? I would tend to believe that the guy is full of shit as there are MANY people around here would have gained MUCH from the simple jelq…

The Advanced Complete Optimal System includes the attachment device: a vinyl sleeve and corresponding steel tightener size 1 and size 2(both the sleeve and the tightener,to cover any penis size),2 different wrapping materials for complete comfort,2 belts for the weights and the wrappings accordingly),the manual,and 8 lbs of first class custom steel weights,and is shipped by express international mail(third day mail).
Optionally (for erect penis length of under 4 1/2”)you may purchase the Beginer Complete System(attachment and manual,with 5 lbs of weights) at a lower price.The beginer system is shipped too by express(third day)international mail,anywhere in the world

Sounds like it’s nothing more than the original Bib. It would be nice if someone would hack into that site and put a link the Thunder’s Place there. Might prevent some people from getting suckered into buying anything from this guy.

He can’t even spell beginner.

I didn’t see any "in-use" photos, only this one of all the parts.

Hopefully anyone contemplating purchasing one will be hesitant based on his lack of grammar, but will spark their interest to do a google search and find Thunder’s. :)

Just because I’m nosy:
The server appears to be hosted by DREAMHOST-BLK1 out of Los Angeles, the WHOIS registrant address is a P.O. Box in Illinois and the contact phone number is overseas. Hmm.

I’m afraid that he is going to regret ever saying….(unlike some people claim,weights penis enlargement does not damage the penis or its functionality and potency in any way)….sooner or later.

He makes it sound like the risks don’t exist. He might be sued.


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

The guy should be commended for his hypocracy… I mean he’s ripping the people who charge a lot of PE information, when he himself is doing the same thing. I’ve invited the guy to take a look at this forum, since he’s under the delusion that PE comes at a cost. If he doesn’t join, it’ll prove that he’s not really that committed to PE, and will also prove this guy to be a waste of time.

And mailing people weights?… jeez talk about bulking up a parcel with dead weight… if a hanger really needs weights mailed as a part of its package, one can only guess what the hanger is lacking. He seems to be commenting on how classy the weights are aswell. Someone should let him know that the laws of gravity remain the same whether on his weights or any other on this planet.


Start --- NBEL 6" length 5" girth

Current --- NBEL 6.5 length 4.9" girth --- BPEL 7.2 <--- WTF? I hate this fat pad.. I'm not even fat!?

Goal --- 8" length 6" girth

He does not appear to be a real good speller. And it looks like he is trying to basically market something you go to Home Depot and make yourself in a few minutes. He must be selling a real good routine though…lol

Stevie by using the overseas ph# I bet he limits the calls he gets, which is more than likely what he wants..

Administrative Contact: 000-GG53293
Gustav Gilmor
POBox 5622
Hertzlia -, 46100
IL
+1.197299584033
gustav@newoptimal.com

Send us a fax to: 1-530-6855826

Leave a voice mail message at: 1-530-6855826

Speak to a LIVE person at:011 972 9 9584033

Thank you!

No big deal, kinda a shits and giggles thing


All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward.

He DID point out that the pills are a rip-off, though. Point for him. Well… It could be because he ain’t selling any, but point made anyways. :D


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

LOL, I kind of thought Hertzlia didn’t sound like your average city name in Illinois. :)

Now I’m really puzzled because Israelis usually make high-quality products.

I bought the optimal system back about four to five years ago, one of the first PE programs I ever bought and one of the biggest rip offs.Basically what I got where three books explaining why everything else did not work and his crap did (supposedly) The Optimal method is no more then an ace bandage which you wrap around your whole member. The you use radiator clamps to keep it tight and then you attach the weight. They recommend you hang for something like twelve hours a day. This program is a crock of shit ,buyer beware.

Wow, I try to never be amazed at the depths some folks will fall to. But this is pretty bad.

Someone should start making abacuses and sell them as computers.

I wonder if that long looped thing is Tom Hubbard’s old ADS system for going around either side. It looks about like his pic used to look.

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