Bibhanger site problems

It appears a lot of guys have had problems at the hanger site trying to order. Sorry about that. Please list the problems here so wx can see what is going on and get them fixed.

Thanks to the guys that emailed to let me know. If the problems can be fixed, I will post it here. I apologize for not being able to afford to put the website on a pay host. I thought it would be better to have it on a free host and keep the hanger costs down. Therefore, I also apologize for the pop-ups.

If we can’t get it fixed, we’ll shut down the order page, but leave the other pages up.

Sorry,

Bigger

Bigger,

We have plenty of room here for your site. I don’t know exactly what is required for a commercial setup, but I think this server package has everything included. We could do a sub-domain setup and keep all the files totally seperated. Think about it and let me know.

T,

Man, you are a great guy. But there could be problems with that. Not on the computer end, but on the product end.

A lot of guys know how the production Bib came about. But most do not. There used to be 1300-1400 members on PEforums. After the change only 400 have signed up, many of them new. That is probably over 1000 guys who got the information, started their programs and either finished, or just lost interest or whatever.

My point is, some guys do not realize the costs of other penis devices, and do not know what the Bib has been about. If you put the site on this board, it will look at least a little like a pay site, or rather an advertisement site. That has been my major concern about the hanger from the beginning.

At some point in time, the hanger becomes, in general, not a favor to the boards, but a non-free device. Several recent emails have brought it home that this is seen as a commercial venture. That is not what the boards have been about. There is no doubt, the boards are more valuable than the hanger. So the obvious route is to discontinue the hanger rather than impune the boards.

I still can’t say if the hangers have been a PE success for the guys that have used it. It would be nice to know. But it surely has not been a commercial success, but that was not the goal. I have spent way to much time on this, have other things I wish to do, and it possibly hurts PE overall. Unless I am missing something, it might be a good time to wrap it up.

Bigger

Bigger,
Fuck the guys that can’t figure it out. If we installed your site on the server, your site would look no different than it does now, except the pop-ups would be gone. A person would be able to log in directly, the only thing that would mention “Thunder’s” at all would be part of the url address in the link. Hell, I think there is probably a way to make that disappear.
Now, on the subject of your site freeloading on these forums, I think you have given a hell of a lot more than you could ever take. I also think there are probably three or four hundred guys (the regulars) that would agree with me. Think of it as a thank you for services rendered and hopefully future services rendered.
And if any one of the guys that has made a financial contribution to help support this place has a problem with it, I’ll send them back their donation immediately with no hard feelings involved.
I really don’t think allowing your site to exist on a sub domain, on this server compromises the integrity (which a lot of the integrity is a result of your influence and contribution) or the agenda of this forum.

Anybody wants to disagree with me, now is the time. Speak up.

Just re-read your post Bigger. What you are “missing” is the guys yet to start PE and use your hanger. Even if it is only 10 to 15 guys a year that actually use it and get gains, that is a good thing. I know it is a burden on your time and I appreciate all your work that has gone into the hanger, from the past up to the present.

You don’t owe it to anybody to continue producing these hangers, but if they are not available to the new guys coming along, they will certainly be missed. Think of some guy starting out a year from now, and your hangers are not available, he posts on one of the forums asking the vets the best way to gain length. The vets reply, “With a Bib Hanger production model, but you can’t get them anymore. You’ll have to settle for something else.” Not good for the new guys.

just woke up from a once a year weekend nap to read this.

not good.

the single best way to gain penis size is using a bib hanger.

end of discussion.

have a nice day.

period.

for the guys that have the time and privacy to use this method there you have it.

Bigger I can’t speak for your other interests but IMO the bib hanger hasn’t been in production long enough to truely evaluate it’s success at any level.

I for one would help out anywhere you needed help to support keeping it in circulation.

let me know.

Bigger—

Ok I’m awake now and here’s what I think; I’ve used the bib hanger for going on 6 months and can attribute at a minium 1/2 inchs in length but even more importantly I see the potential of hanging for size.

Here’s the deal for any PE program a person needs at least one year for measurable results. Because the production hanger hasn’t even been around that long needless to say it’s going to be hard to judge the success of the venture when your trying to operate outside this box so to speak.

Furthermore the intial gains come in a normal senario fairly quickly say 3-6 months; then the challenge begins. For the most part guys using the bib hanger have at least 3-6 months PE experence so thier intial gains “zone” is gone and they are inately dealing with more challenging gains so to speak.

I believe in your vision and I know from several emails with you your sincerely interested in helping other guys with making their dicks bigger and all the benifits related to this action,without the consideration of making a buck. Which by the way there is nothing wrong with either.

So again if you want some help with anything please let me know I want nothing but to keep the hanger vision alive and I’m willing to put my time and energy where my mouth is.

BTW I’d also like a couple more hangers is that possible?

later,

T and zep,

I really appreciate the kind words. wx got the ‘problem’ straightened out. It turned out to not really be a big problem, but was an issue with the paypal system.

Nothing to be done about it. If I went to a regular CC company, it would be $10-15 higher per hanger.

So anyway, I can’t blame the system in order to get out. Hmmmm.

Realize, I am perfectly satisfied with the reception of the hanger. I have had a lot of guys email me with good gains that do not want to post, or even register. Also, there are many who have posted good gains on the boards. Very few guys have been unhappy with gains or lack thereof.

I know it is a raging success for the most part. Of course, I would rather have 100% gain rate, and everyone get exactly what they want. I know also that a lot of guys will continue to report gains as time goes on.

But some day, it will come to an end. I taught my son how to make them a while back, just in case there were orders to go out and I could not make them. I will come up with an end game strategy for the hangers at some point. Just has not happened yet. Also, the orders don’t stop. Hmmmm

Bigger

Bigger,

I sent you an email recently requesting some personal help with my hanging. But one thing I hope you have always gotten from me and others who know the real deal is that we appreciate your efforts. You are a pillar of PE and we thank you. Nobody who has been around this thing for long can honestly believe you make any money worth a damn off the hanger. Your time is way more valuable then the hanger costs, I know that!!! It is a labor of love for men like me who are struggling to feel better about themselves. Thank you, and one of the reasons I keep trying is that I really want to be able to report some good gains to you as a “thank you” because I know that is the payment you desire most.

With much appreciation,
Hugeness.

Bigger,

whatever you do, please dont pull out now. I am new at this as you already know and I know that this program will be successful. Maybe if folks who got gains post them, it will encourage those that who are thinking of giving up. I went from 5lbs to 17 lbs in one week, and let me tell those quitters, it will cost some type of sacrifice if you want any gains. I mean, even if its 2” in a year, the sacrifice would be worth it. I know that in about 3 months, I will probably be up to 25 - 30 lbs and any sensible fool knows that if you hang 30 lbs on your dick for a few months, you have to gain length. Those quitters are just lazy and thought that hanging was going to be a piece of cake and probably didnt get past 10 lbs.

I am determined to gain 2” on my dick, and when I do, I will post it. Just like the old saying ” NO PAIN, NO GAIN ” and I dont mean injury pain, I means good effort workout pain. So let the quitters quit, we will be your testimony that this thing works.

kabar,

>I am new at this as you already know and I know that this program will be successful. Maybe if folks who got gains post them, it will encourage those that who are thinking of giving up.<

I don’t think there are any doubts that hanging can give gains. Starting with Tom H, there have been hundreds if not thousands of guys over the years who have gained. The Bibs have given plenty of gains. Everyone has their own point of stopping for whatever reasons.

>I went from 5lbs to 17 lbs in one week, and let me tell those quitters, it will cost some type of sacrifice if you want any gains.<

That is too agressive. You need to back off a little and be more careful. Things will happen, but your penis needs time to adjust.

>I mean, even if its 2” in a year, the sacrifice would be worth it. <

Not many guys gain two inches in a year. You are setting yourself up for disappointment if that is your goal. It is ok to have long term goals, but also make shorter term goals that are more reasonable.

>I know that in about 3 months, I will probably be up to 25 - 30 lbs and any sensible fool knows that if you hang 30 lbs on your dick for a few months, you have to gain length. <

Once again, this is too agressive. Don’t set goals on the amount of weight. Simply go by the way it feels. Try to always get the fatigued, worked out feeling during a session. The amount of weight hung, should not be a goal.

>Those quitters are just lazy and thought that hanging was going to be a piece of cake and probably didnt get past 10 lbs.<

Many guys will make gains at ‘only’ ten pounds. That may be what certain individuals need to hang.

>I am determined to gain 2” on my dick, and when I do, I will post it. Just like the old saying ” NO PAIN, NO GAIN ” and I dont mean injury pain, I means good effort workout pain. <

Just be sure to relax, and let the weight do the work. No pain at all. Do other things while hanging but do pay attention to the condition of your penis. Remember to set lower, shorter term goals.

Bigger

>I went from 5lbs to 17 lbs in one week, and let me tell those quitters, it will cost some type of sacrifice if you want any gains.<

I think the quick increase was due to my feeling out the hanger. I started out with 5lbs and after about 5 mins I didnt feel any good pull, so I went up 2lbs at a time and it took about a week for me to realize that 15 lbs was my maximum weight for a good fatigue pull. I do agree that I need to go slow and not rush it.

>I know that in about 3 months, I will probably be up to 25 - 30 lbs and any sensible fool knows that if you hang 30 lbs on your dick for a few months, you have to gain length. <

OK Bib, I get the point, I guess I am a bit too agressive here, I will take my mind off the weight and concentrate on the quality of excercise. Thanks.

>Just be sure to relax, and let the weight do the work. No pain at all. Do other things while hanging but do pay attention to the condition of your penis. Remember to set lower, shorter term goals.<

Will do Bib. Thanks.

I really appreciate your concern for us Bib. You have a product in the hanger that is very effective, and if we just follow your lead and heed to your advice, I think 100% of the users will be successful.

Bib! I can’t even get to your site. It reads 404 and takes me to the regular hypermart. Just so you know. I trtied using the link here at Thunders’s and the PE forum too. Same thing.TT

sorry it says 403 error. I don’t have a password or some nonsense. My mistake! TT

Twat,

It appears Hypermart is fucking with me. I believe it is called extortion. I hope not.

Anyway, wx and Thunder are working on it for me. Bless them. I know they will get something working as soon as they can.

Thanks,

Bigger