How often do you increase the weight?

Somebody on here told me that you want to stimulate gains with the least amount of weight possible. Makes sense to me. If I can makes gains with five pounds why increase when I don’t have to. Anyway, how long will you be at a certain length until you decide it’s time to increase the weight, and then, by how much do you increase it?

Never. I would change the hanging angle instead of increasing the weight.

GM

Why the angle? Also, which angle do you prefer?

Well, first of all, I’m not hanging to see how much weight that I can hang off of my penis. I’m hanging to elongate my penis.

Since this is my goal, weight does not matter: all I need is enough weight to stretch the penis to about 105% of its normal length, for long enough to create micro tears in the tissue, then traction wrap to heal in the elongated state.

Before I hang or stretch, I warm up, then sweep my penis in a half-hemisphere, crescent by crescent, starting at the top wedge, then working my way down. When I find resistance, I note it, then hang or stretch at that angle.

GM

Sorry, I generally disagree with this.

Most people have to start hanging at a low weight to avoid injury, that is common sense. Under the statement above, therefore, you never increase your weight from about 1 lbs?

Both angle, sets and duration are important. However, you cannot take weight out of that equation.

I cannot believe you Glandmaster have NEVER increased the weight you use as you state.

If repetition and angle were the only factors, why do weightlifters add weight to what they lift? I know we are not talking weight lifting here, but some physiological points do crossover into PE.

Where I agree with Glandmaster is in the fact this isn’t a weight lifting contest. It doesn’t follow the more weight you manage the more gains you make, however, I believe there is a required mass to cause the deformation required and that isn’t just the 1-2 lbs you start with (or are advised to start with).

My belief is you perhaps have to go 6-7 lbs to start to get the deformation required. You have to build to that point and experiment with angles, but that experimentation has to be based on some evidence and you use LOT theory, the palp test, exit point etc to give the indication if you require BTC, OTS, OTL, SD, SO etc.

Okay, so how often do you increase the weight, or after how long at a particular length?

Ruz I believe Glandmaster was responding to this part of andgrowing’s post: If I can makes gains with five pounds why increase when I don't have to?

Glandmaster’s point, the way I read it anyway, is that you shouldn’t arbitrarily increase weight just because. The consensus here is that it makes sense to exhaust all gains, from a variety of angles, etc., before reaching for more weight.

There is also the idea that if a given weight seems to be reaching a plateau (from a variety of angles) increasing time would be a good thing to try before upping the weight.

His point that hanging not be a weight-lifting challenge is well taken. There are many ways to exhaust and fatigue tissue other than piling on more weight.

This is not to say increasing the weight should never be done, but perhaps paying attention to one’s PI’s and really giving a given weight time to work is better than just assuming the weight should be increased at a certain interval, as in weight-lifting.

PE and weight-lifting have very little in common in actual fact.

In truth, PE is much closer to Physical Therapy.

Make sense?

I think the most common mistake made in any form of PE is that more force, more weight, more pressure must always be better, when in fact, it is not.

When you find out the secret force that works for you, don’t think it will work better or faster if you increase that force. Stick with what you are doing that works. You penis is a rather delicate organ that responds best when it is in peak condition and healthy. When you start adding more force or weight than your penis can handle and that causes tissue trauma, then your penis goes into defensive mode and actually might shrink as it tries to heal itself. It is certainly not going to grow when it is damaged.

I think guys read all about how PE causes micro tears and when these heal, you get bigger. What they fail to understand is that micro tears are microscopic and can’t be seen by the naked eye. If you are causing visible damage to your penis, or you can’t get an erection, that is macro damage and way beyond what is going to allow you to grow.

When you find the magic force that is right for you and doesn’t cause damage, don’t add more force. If anything, add more time at the same force. More time is way more effective in changing your penis size then more force is.

Believe me, when I started PE, I did not believe this to be so. I always went for more force. Guess what? It didn’t work and I wasted a lot of time trying to make it work.

I thought one of the key principles from Bib was “divide and conquer”. Therefore, you exhaust a gain at one angle before moving to the next. I don’t see the point in switching focus from say the ligs to the tunica as a general rule (i.e. not on a one-off basis for rest) as that to me doesn’t divide and conquer. But it is a debate to have, for sure.

Fair enough, Ruz_.

Another technique in addition to changing angles is to add fulcrums. These things can break you loose when your current weight is not producing gains any longer. When you see gains are no longer happening i.e. a month or so, then you can increase by 20% and start over with your time and technique. I’ve been just under the 20lb area for well over a year and gains are still available to me. Mind you I’ve been hanging for close to 3 years so I consider that if I’m still under 20lbs that is really quite a statement.