RevHangman,
I am glad to see someone trying the extreme Ulis. I do not see much written about them anymore. Maybe they are a little too extreme.
>What level of erection is appropriate, 60%, 80%, 100%?<
Once you get into this, you will realize that it is hard to put a % on the erection. However, it is much less than 100%. You cannot have a full erection because you have to have room for the Uli thing to compress and raise the pressure. That sounds odd, but it is true. If you attempt to tighten down on a full erection, you have a greater chance at injury. Also, while you can cut off the return blood, you are not able to cut off backflow with a full erection. When your erection subsides, you then loose the pressure due to backflow.
This is the easiest way for me: Simply wrap medium tight. This will take some experimentation. Too tight limits incoming blood. Too loose and the Uli thing will bunch the wrap and pinch skin. Then begin the erection. When you have some blood above the wrap, put on the Uli thing and tighten a little. Continue the erection and alternate tightening a little as you go.
You will see the pressure build fairly quickly. There are two things working to increase the pressure. One, the incoming blood is not limited, and the normal erection mechanism begins to close off return veins by pressure. Two, the added pressure from the Uli thing quickly stops all return blood which gives you the added pressure.
Now, as the pressure builds, you still want things rather loose on the body side of the Uli thing. There is a semi-fine line on the amount of erection needed to give the pressure above the Uli thing, and still allow the Uli thing to be tightened to cut off incoming blood. The vessels for the incoming blood are in the middle of the chambers so it takes more pressure to stop backflow after the pressure above the Uli thing is where you want it. Totally confused, right?
Ask questions and I will try to do better.
>How much pressure/discomfort do you feel?……Did you ever experiment with moving the Uli thing forward to increase the pressure even more? I guess you did a similar move when you did extreme Ulis via hanging light weights.<
I only went to the discomfort level a few times. When it became uncomfortable, I decreased the pressure. I did not use weights for very long with the Uli thing. I realized it was simply too much and was not needed.
Realize that it is a slow process. While the Uli thing is on and your shaft is engorged, it will look huge. But this is not a true representation of what is happening. Each session, you make tiny advances. It is easy to become discouraged looking at the engorgement from the extreme Ulis, and then later seeing a normal erection. Obviously your normal erection will NEVER be as large as when you are engorged doing extreme Ulis. Some guys cannot get over this.
Given that a normal erection is the edge of the marginal stretch of the tunica, it does not take too much pressure above the marginal stretch to affect a stretch of the tunica. You pointed out the key to using an Uli thing which is the ability to hold this ‘above marginal stretch’ for a lengthy time.
>I’m trying to get a handle on a quantifiable level of pressure. As an example if my normal girth at erection is 5 inches at the upper shaft, and then I do an extreme Uli; what is a good level of pressure? a resulting girth of 5.25 inches? 5.5 inches? What sort of engorgement/swelling did you experience as you tightened down the Uli thing? I realize our tissues may not be comparable in elasticity, so an equivalent amount of pressure may result in more or less expansion with me.<
I cannot quantify the pressure in added girth etc. I never measured while I was doing the Uli thing. However, the engorgement is great, especially in later sets. The best thing I can say is, back off on the pressure as you approach or reach discomfort. Pain is a precurssor or actual indication of injury.
One thing I must say is you need to use heat when you begin and for the first half of the sets. During the first set, you will notice red bumps on the head. As long as those bumps are there, you are not much past the marginal stretch. On the second or third set, and with using heat, you will notice the red bumps are not present, and the head is darker and kind of shiny. This is an indication you are well above the marginal stretch.
>What sort of wrap did you use?<
Usually just Theraband. If my skin was irritated, I would use a cloth underwrap.
>After becoming acclimated, what routine/schedule did you settle into? Surely, you didn’t do 10min on and 10min off, the entire day as you did for hanging?<
No, I did not do Ulis the entire day. I stopped when I was fatigued and simply stayed wrapped and therefore slightly engorged. It is much easier to become fatigued with extreme Ulis for girth than with hanging for length. At least for me.
Sometimes it only took four or five sets. Sometimes much more. It is hard to remember the actual numbers, but that is close. Probably the most I ever did was ten or so in one day. If you are doing a lot, make sure that your services are not required that night. You might not have a problem with your erection, but it might be a little sore for sex. By the next day, I was usually fine.
>I haven’t done any extreme Ulis yet, but I am convinced that this is the number one advanced technique for girth gains, simply because of the amount of pressure that is exerted over time, which is minutes vs the seconds for manual Ulis, horse squeezes, erect bends, etc.<
I agree, it makes jelqing or manual Ulis look infantile. However, by the same token, the risk for injury is much higher. You will notice as you do them, the area just below the urethra opening will become discolored. This seems to be the main area of growth. Mine even split there on a couple of occasions and I had a couple of drops of blood come out. Keep an eye on this area, and as you see problems, back off.
While these are an additive pressure exercise, and the bonds are stretched in the direction they are normally aligned, it is still somewhat dangerous in my opinion.
Good luck and ask more good questions. I like it.
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