U.S. vs FIR pad discussion

Will do - I haven’t tried it yet as I planned - I haven’t really sorted out how to be sure I’m not US-ing my balls yet since I don’t have a dragon skin phantom made and any fulcrum is going to require shooting in that direction.

OK - I gave it a go using a 1” diameter fulcrum with a knee sleeve as the backer. I taped the temp probes to the ventral side and used US heat in the usual time table. It didn’t work at all - I had a lot of hot spots and could only get the temp of one probe to 42C for a few minutes. I ended up stopping after 10m of US heat and switching to OTL for the remaining part of the session - basically a waste of time. I’ll probably not try again, but you never know.

G’day folks,

I’ve updated my post. Been testing with total man heatpad and having some gains that I’ve never had before.

Even though I had a US device ( not as good as the US pro 2nd), but heat pad might be handy when it comes to hand-free heat stretching. Still having decent gains lately!

Just read through this entire thread, really interesting. Question is, are there any affordable options for US devices? How exactly is it applied and what are the methods used. Thanks.

I’m using the FIR heatpad and gettin decent results. Idk how effective would the US be, but to me, response better with heat overall. So I’ll give the Heatpad a try first and then move to real US when I reach plateau with the FIR heatpad

On top of that, effiency of US is superior than the FIR heatpad. According to many US users, 30 min session can get the job done. My session with the pad ends roughly 60 min( 30-40 mins for it to reach ~42C)

When it comes to convenience, the heatpad is hand-free. 2 matches of League Legends gives me 2% of strain 😂

I used TM FIR pad for 60 to 90 minutes all the time, no issues here. It start to feel a bit hot towards the end of my sessions but doesn’t feel uncomfortable to handle.

I don’t understand why it requires up to 30-40 minutes to reach close to 42C ?

Perhaps the blood flowing or the tissues retaining the heat ? Why can’t it be reached say within 10 minutes ?

Has anyone considered using MOS-Red NIR light ?

It seems extremely powerful in comparison with Thermedic or TotalMan, can be used exclusively as red light or near infrared light, is wider and can be placed in different positions according to your needs.

I would think that with this baby temperatures 39-40C can be achieved easily.

Any thoughts Tutt, ScienceGuy, anyone ?

That time is for the heat to penetrate in to the urethra. The body also tries to regulate temperature which slows down the process. I tried an experiment using sausage meat, similar type of meat to human flesh but doesn’t have the body’s cooling mechanisms and other stuff obviously it heated much quicker and got much higher.

Any links to a product?

The one advertised on MattersOfSize 300W.

Can we assume that by limiting the blood flow during hanging with heat we can cut the time needed for the temperature to reach 39C+.

Let’s say it takes 40 minutes for the temperature to reach up to 42C, if we clamp our units since the beginning, just like you would when clamping, we could reach those same temperatures in less than 20 minutes ? Then remove the clamp and heat and let it hang cold for 7-10 minutes, thus making the whole session in less time. Would that be an effective approach ?

What I am suggesting is basically:
- 20 minutes stress relaxing by gradually increasing weights;
- 20 minutes hanging with near infrared heat on and clamped;
- 10 minutes cold hang.

What is your test process to validate or disprove this hypothesis? Without a test a hypothesis is just a guess.

32, you posted your first and current stats, what was the time frame for you to reach the current stats? Thanks

Firstly, I am all in favor of the stress relaxation before hanging with heat, so we can achieve the maximum strech using Kyrpa’s weight calculator. I believe 20 minutes is more than enough using a simple homemade noose hanger and adding weights every 2.5 minutes until we reach our max depending on the circumference of our unit.

Then, use a vacum hanger because we need 30 minutes of hanging, 20 minutes using NIR heat and 10 hanging cold after. When using the heat while hanging we keep increasing weights every 2.5 minutes using either our unit’s feeling or guiding ourselves by Kyrpa’s calculator. The difference here is that we will clamp our unit up to a point that it feels slightly uncomfortable, but bearable, to limit the blood flow and increase our units temperature faster. I have found that 20 minutes is the maximum I can handle safely my unit clamped and I believe 20 minutes is more than enough of a strech with heat.

The 10 minutes is cold hanging with 20% more weight and unclamped for the tissue to take the new form.

2 days on and 2 days off until we either reach a max cummulative strain of 4.8% or up until we don’t gain anymore. Always measuring on the second day of our workout. Then taking a decon break.