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U.S. vs FIR pad discussion

Your hypothesis is that 20 minutes heat is sufficient to reach the urethra while clamping.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
Your hypothesis is that 20 minutes heat is sufficient to reach the urethra while clamping.

Yes, exactly.

I hope Tutt can give his scientific opinion on this. Near infrared light can penetrate up to 4 cm inside the skin and it heats the whole unit at the same time, so with clamping I believe we can limit our units ability to cool down its temperature.

The reality is that NIR vs FIR in this context means very little. While FIR radiation can be detected a few cm deep in the tissue, that doesn’t mean it carries an appreciable energy that deep. Discounting any therapeutic effects on the cells and considering heat only, it doesn’t really matter that much. Does FIR heat a bit deeper? Yes, but using a wrap it is mostly conduction anyway. If using a radiant lamp, there is no way to achieve target temps.without burning the skin on the shaft and legs. I’ve tried several times. The physics simply doesn’t work.

The wrap works because it effectively creates an oven heating conductively from all directions. Even then, wraps only achieve target temps in the distal shaft. But yes with clamping you can better ensure higher temps. The problem is that you shouldn’t stay clamped for too long.

Originally Posted by Tutt
The reality is that NIR vs FIR in this context means very little. While FIR radiation can be detected a few cm deep in the tissue, that doesn’t mean it carries an appreciable energy that deep. Discounting any therapeutic effects on the cells and considering heat only, it doesn’t really matter that much. Does FIR heat a bit deeper? Yes, but using a wrap it is mostly conduction anyway. If using a radiant lamp, there is no way to achieve target temps. Without burning the skin on the shaft and legs. I’ve tried several times. The physics simply doesn’t work.

The wrap works because it effectively creates an oven heating conductively from all directions. Even then, wraps only achieve target temps in the distal shaft. But yes with clamping you can better ensure higher temps. The problem is that you shouldn’t stay clamped for too long.

Thank you for the reply Tutt.

Actually, I was talking about MOS-RED which posses Red and NIR light, which you can turn on separately from each other. Joovv products might be another example. Compared to the wraps they are more powerful in term of watts or light output, 300W.

Now, in your opinion, if we combine vacuum hanging with a slight clamp (enough to reduce the circulation of blood, but not too much to stop it completely) at the end of the shaft with only NIR light switched on, do you think we can successfully achieve the desired temperature? Clamping no more than 8 minutes straight and releasing for 2 minutes. I would assume 39C or 40C is easily achieved using this method.

So, we might stay between our 0.1-0.17 mpa weight ranges comfortably doing this exercise and achieving the necessary strain each time.

I was thinking 40 exercise days, 60 minute each:
- combining length and girth together, 20 each
- 1 day on and 1 day off
- start with length and next exercise do girth
- girth is comprised of only clamping using heat and perhaps adding additional clamps if we can manage during the exercise, 8 minutes clamped and 2 minutes release for a maximum of 50 minutes and last 10 minutes clamped without heat

I firmly believe that with this routine I can get the most out of length and girth at the same time, get enough rest in-between and achieve max strain with each exercise.

Any suggestion/review/tip from you is highly welcomed.

Do I understand correctly. You say that it is harmful to clench the penis for too long. Are you talking about more than just clamping in an erection? What happens if you don’t remove the clamp while in the extender for an hour?


Sorry for my English

Originally Posted by Tutt
The reality is that NIR vs FIR in this context means very little. While FIR radiation can be detected a few cm deep in the tissue, that doesn’t mean it carries an appreciable energy that deep. Discounting any therapeutic effects on the cells and considering heat only, it doesn’t really matter that much. Does FIR heat a bit deeper? Yes, but using a wrap it is mostly conduction anyway. If using a radiant lamp, there is no way to achieve target temps.without burning the skin on the shaft and legs. I’ve tried several times. The physics simply doesn’t work.

The wrap works because it effectively creates an oven heating conductively from all directions. Even then, wraps only achieve target temps in the distal shaft. But yes with clamping you can better ensure higher temps. The problem is that you shouldn’t stay clamped for too long.

Please advise. If I want to measure pre- and post only in the device. At what tension should I measure pre- ? At one kilo I am adding heat. But measuring pre- on one kilo seems to me not enough. Since it is not the maximum possible result. And the final percentage of strain per workout cannot be calculated reliably. Thank you.


Sorry for my English


Last edited by 32quarters : 10-29-2022 at .
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