Erections In The Tube; Helpful?

I did a little experiment where I pumped for two hours straight without leaving the tube. One session was with an erection maintained the entire duration. The other just letting myself get pumped. What I noticed is that although I did have more fluid under the glans while pumping without an erection, because I packed the tube most of the expansion was the tunica. It’s like clamping at 80% and getting more expansion than clamping with a erection at 100%. Length was the same on both instances. About .5” past EL and pumping at 2-3hg the entire session.

Being erect is probably more important when you aren’t packing the tube. I just wanted to share this with people that are pumping. I can’t post anywhere else.

I’m only erect when I first enter the tube

I find my bpel is much longer outside of the cylinder though compared to in the cylinder

Weird

The cylinder might not be digging into your fat pad deep enough to reveal the full length it’s actually reaching. Or the width expansion is taking away from length, or the vacuum used/time in pump might be too low for max expansion.

Thanx bro
My fat pad could b throwing it off

I think that being erect in the tube, as much as possible during the entire duration, is useful.

It increases the post pump size I have noticed, though I haven’t dedicated enough time to see if it’s absolutely necessary for gains.

Sigmoid,
what advise would you give to someone who has seen up to 0.25 Length and 0.2 girth shrinkage after backing off for no more than a week and has never returned back to old size even after about a month later

I laid off of jelqing and pumped with air at low pressure with only a partial erection for a year and gained nothing. I think it IS necessary to at least enter the pump erect at first. At least for me it is.

I can’t compare the two methods because I always enter the tube erect and stay erect while pumping. As soon as I exit the tube I put on an elastic cock ring to maintain and enjoy my post pump size while I edge. I always watch porn during the session without any adverse effects, but to each his own.

I notice my erect length in the tube is .5-1” longer without a comfort ring.

I don’t know that I have enough experience or knowledge to give advice on that particular situation, but I can share experiences that might be applicable.

I have noticed that I have experienced temporary shrinkage from high force stretches. When using high force through a hanger or extender I can get my erection .25” longer temporarily, but over the next few days it is reduced by .25” instead. When it comes to connective tissue, there seems to be a window of force where stretching contributes to the elongation of the tissue, while force in excess causes a contraction response.

I don’t normally pay attention to girth closely, so it’s possible that a similar response occurs from high force girth exercises or even from high force stretching. I haven’t investigated the contraction response closely enough to know all the characteristics so it might effect girth too.

I think that the contraction response is counterproductive for PE because it seems like the tissues could remodel in the contracted state smaller and shorter. In other tissues like tendons of skeletal muscle, that might not be similar enough to give insight into PE, we can see the shortening of connective tissue in response to traumatic extension. I’m sure many of us have experienced injury from weight lifting where a contraction response was triggered and it made extending the limb difficult for some time. When I reached adulthood I really over did it with dumbbell curls and had to walk around like a t-rex with my forearms up for a while.

I avoid manual stretches, high weight hanging, and extenders for the above reasons and instead use light pumping and light hanging and since I restarted PE I’ve made good progress with this rationale.

I may have gained length with Dr Joel kaplins penis and scotum pump. That said if I did it wasn’t much I’d say .25 at best and maybe zilch

As far as girth had a two inch hydromax and it was too tight at base on my six inch girth

The bathmate is the same siZe and while snug isn’t too tight. Every pump is made different

While pumping may help a little bit with length or maybe help cement length gains after length gains are made, in my expirience it’s mainly a girth exercise

Thanks

I have some other questions but won’t hijack the thread . Thanks for sharing

Wow your post made me think a lot about PE!
When I first started PE in 2003 there was such limited info on it out there. I just found a printed list of exercises to try: standard stretches and jelqing. I used to pull left, right, up to belly, down to feet and straight out for a minute each. Then, jelqs. I gained from 6 3/8” bpel to 8” bpel over the course of about two years. I did most of my growing in about 14 months and then didn’t gain much of anything for 6 months. However during those last 6 months I increased my stretching force and did more intense stretches (I don’t know what they’re called now, but the “A-frame” one that involves pulling your cock over your wrist and the pulling straight out and using a finger to push down on the middle of your cock to make a V-shape).

So now that I’m reading @Sigmoid post here, maybe stretching too strongly prevented more growth? I’ve wondered if the penis can grow from continued stress and added force (like harder, longer term stretching and more jelqing, or harder pressures in pumping for longer) or from just consistent stress at a lower level. I’m feeling like @Sigmoid is on to something here!

I don’t stretch much at all anymore. In fact I don’t even attempt a stretch every PE workout. Occasionally I’ll stretch for a minute or three randomly and not really do a routine. But something that makes me feel like I “did some stretching” and its not anywhere near the rigor I used to approach my PE in the mid 2000s.

I’ve been pumping more gently too. Concerning erections in the tube, which this thread is about (sorry to be off topic so far), I get hard before and go in as hard as I can but I know my erection fails within seconds of the pressure reaching what I need, usually between 3-4inHg. It is huge in there though and looks like its hard as hell, but I know its not: as soon as I release pressure, its just a huge fat flaccid that is about the size of my full erection, just its not hard. The pressure, while it doesn’t ever hurt or feel uncomfortable, I guess, just makes me not be hard. However, if something really hot is on the screen, or I am pulling on the tube to do little jelq/ligament work, I can feel myself get hard and it feels good. But, I feel like when I’m harder longer in the tube I might be more susceptible to edema. I don’t know why I think that, but it seems like when I’m most excited and hardest longest for a session, those are my heaviest edema days.

Anyone else see a relationship between erections in the tube and edema?

I haven’t noticed a correlation between erection strength in the tube and edema when the tube isn’t packed, but I have noticed if the tube is packed I will get more edema around the glans (probably because it’s the only place the skin can further expand). What causes different degrees of edema is kind of a mystery to me. More time causes more edema, higher pressures cause more edema, but I have noticed a large degree of variability in edema over time while doing a set routine of 20 minutes at 5 inHg. Over time, it seems like the amount of edema I get has become less. Today I’d say that after a session there’s only a tiny amount of edema. There’s definitely some factor in edema I don’t know yet.

Masturbating with the tube when you have a significant amount of edema can cause vertical stretch marks behind the glans I’ve noticed. I try not to do it, though I don’t get a lot of edema from my regular 20 minute sessions anyway, because that region of my penis already looks like a microwaved hot dog from the stretch marks.

I’m glad you’ve taken an interest in the idea that there’s a window of force where sustained gains are made. That’s the major take away I’ve gotten from looking retrospectively on my PE experience. I’m reasonably certain it’s an accurate view of PE, but it really needs more people checking it against their experience to advance to a theory.

are you sure that more fluids depend on non-erection? or just because it was the second session. try the opposite