how many of you guys do both?

Agree with the body building theory. I’m pretty sure we can say that PE causes micro tears. I think it’s just that we don’t agree on the meaning of the term “scarring”. Personally, I don’t think we can talk about “scarring” when micro-tears heal.

Yea is that micro tears stuff safe to get?

I hope so;

I had my share of problems I do not need any more.

I got a friend that pumps and believes that if you don’t go with a lot you won’t get what I got.

I can not understand why he hasn’t hurt himself yet by the way he pumps his dick should look like a big lump of raw meat.

I hope that the micro tears are safe to get.

You should get that friend of yours to take a look at this thread:

Destroying Barriers - Maxing out, the ultimate in pumping.

(Hope the link will work

My friend told me that the muscle building theory is bull shit and that the penis gets bigger because the corpora cavernosa and corpus spongiosum chambers fills with more blood than usual to expand the corpora cavernosa and corpus spongiosum chambers to hold more blood than it would normally hold if you didn’t pump, that when ever you pump it draws more blood into the corpora cavernosa and corpus spongiosum chambers making them bigger and allowing the penis to be bigger whenever you pump. But since the penis is quite elastic and can snap back to normal and you will not be able to get good gains unless you do it regular to stretch the penis tissue enough to allow you to keep the results. And he also said that Scar tissue is not as elastic as healthy tissue and will hinder your penis from getting big and if your penis is getting scar tissue it will not get bigger and that it will have the opposite affect and actually make the penis get smaller in size. And he also said is nearly impossible to get scar tissue just by pumping. And it is possible to get scar tissue build up from hanging but it would take a sudden jerk in pressure from the weights or you try to use a lot of weight.

I do not know if I want to believe my friend because he is a know it all.
Is there anybody who knows if this is true? I would like to believe him but he has a bad habit of talking bull shit himself.

Oh yea I went to that thread. Nothing new to me. I have been preaching that myself. You do not have to have pain for something to be wrong.
I also been preaching to my friend also but has done nothing and all he said is that he was the one that got me pumping in the first place and he was the teacher and I was the student.

I hang and pump.

I’m principally a hanger but I try and pump every day to increase my base girth.

I’ve always had a natural baseball-bat but I want a thicker base, so I wrap the thicker part of my penis and use a pump to increase the girth from the wrap down (hanging does give base girth, but I was getting an hour-glass shape, so I’ve been working on developing the base and evening things out).

I’m not sure how permanent pumped gains are (I’ve heard not very) but I’m sticking to it.

I’ve been avoiding clamping since I’ve always been told that it’ll hinder length gains, but I’m not sure how true that is. I’ve clamped and hung within the same routine before now and hanging is always harder after clamping because clamping fatigues my unit very rapidly and stops me being able to hang.

I’m hoping to have at least an even shape for when I begin my clamping routine and am hoping that a clamping routine and a pumping routine practiced in the same time-frame will result in the kind of permanent gains that’ll let me keep the shape I want.

I want to start uli’s also, to improve head-size, but I don’t know a lot about them and am worried they it might cause another baseball bat effect.

I really need an answer to my statement in post 19 if someone knows if it is true or not.

Thanks a lot

I’ve personally always thought that muscle is built by creating micro-tears (e.g. by weightlifting). I’m not sure if this is correct, it’s just something I’ve always heard.

It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s the same kind of thing that makes a penis gain length/girth, but to be honest I’m not really sure what it is— there doesn’t seem to be any clinical evidence to prove exactly how PE works (or at least I’ve not seen it), so I really don’t know for sure what exactly is causing my gains.

I can say that I’ve been steadily gaining for quite a few months by consistently hanging relatively low weights (relative to what a lot of other hangers hang), but I do so over a longer period (I aim for 12 sets a day at 3kg). This for the most part is a constant static force (static Static - definition of static by The Free Dictionary definition 1 (adj.))

The gains I experience with this routine match those advertised (by MSP concept) as the maximum possible through the use of the Penimaster. Penimaster gains are attributed to cell production as a reaction to stress placed on the penis by the device.

To be honest I couldn’t say for certain what it is that causes the growth I’m experiencing (or if my growth matching that of the Penimaster’s maximum is just a coincidence), and until there’s some proper research conducted to find out how it works I don’t think anyone can really say for certain just how it happens— all we can really do is offer conjecture.

There is evidence to suggest that too heavy a weight or sudden jerks of the weight will cause the collagen in the Penis to knit in a certain way that can slow or stop gains (which is why it’s good to take a deconditioning break if you’ve been hanging heavier and heavier while your gains have slowly stopped).

Pump, hang, jelk, stretch, squeeze, ads … and I still have to keep the name tinytim.