how many of you guys do both?

I am reading a ton of awesome posts and threads all over this site. I have a growing admiration for several of you. So I thank you all for being so forth coming with all of you knowledge and experiences.(good and the bad)

I do have a question- How many of you guys are pumpers and hangers?

It seems to me that everyone is either a pumper or a hanger or a clamper. Just wondering if anyone is benefiting from both, or if both at once is to much stress?

nygainer

I am neither one of those, but I’ll leave my comment anyway: If you adjust your intensity and time, I think it’s OK to do all three of them. Pumping and clamping seems kind of unnessecary, but hanging and clamping or hanging and pumping is in theory like stretching and jelqing, so I don’t see why you can’t do them both with an adjusted instensity.

I am very new to all of this, but I think this is a good question. Should hangers pump? Should pumpers hang? What does one do that the other doesn’t do?

B-7974

Starting stats-6.0 x5.0
Goal-9x6-6.5

I do not pump and hang but I do pump, stretch with my hands which is safer than hanging weights on your penis because you can adjust the amount of pull to your liking and if you start to feel any discomfort all you have to do is let go of your penis and stop pulling.

Hey Nygainer:

I’ll give my two-cents worth. I use a great device made by Monkeybar, a member here also, called the Auto-Extender for an hour. I follow that by pumping for an hour generally 4-5 times a week. See Avocet’s thread for the PROPER way to go about Pumping. Good Luck. Steve

There are a lot that pump and hang, can’t remember who they all are cause I am a clamper and still to this day use the newbie routine (it works for me and I have seen very good gains), but I do believe gprent and ModestoMan does both.

It makes sense to me that hand stretching would be safer, but it can’t be more effective. I think with success comes risk. I think that of the two pumping or hanging- pumping makes the most sense to me. From what I have read, you can control both length and girth with the pump.

I am going to start pumping as soon as my pump comes in. I think if you pump you don’t need to hang. But some sort of hand stretching is a good idea.

But I am very new to all of this, I may be very wrong.

B-7974

I’m not a big PE theorist but here’s one theory I try to apply

I think there are 2 categories of exercises: 1-stretching exercises 2-Engorgement exercises

I think you can max out the results you get by focusing on only 1 category at the time.

I’ve always worked more with stretching exercises (manual stretches, long sessions of very low erection level jelqs). I got good gains from it but I hit a plateau for a while.

Right now, I’m focusing on engorgement exercises. I made myself a routine consisting of 3 sets where I alternate dry jelqing/ manual clamping/ edging and high pressure pumping (between 10 and 15 Hg).

So far it seems to be working good for me. I have gained a little bit and I definitely broke the plateau where I was stuck.

I also think that alternating between stretching routines and engorgement routines allows you to get repeated gains from certain exercises. Example: my first routine ever consisted of stretches only. I made very quick newbie gains of 3cm (a little over 1”). After I made those gains, I stuck with this routine for an other year and gained nothing. I switched to a jelqing routine for about a year. Didn’t gain much with the jelqing (no length and a little bit of girth). After my year off from stretching, I went back to my old stretching routine and I gained an other 1cm (+- 7/16”) in about 2 weeks. I then hit a plateau again. I am planning to go back to this same stretching routine when I stop gaining from my actual engorgement routine. Then I’ll be able to say if this “theory” of repeated gains has any value.

As far as your original question is concerned, I think it is a great idea to hang and pump but I’d definitely do each of them in separated routines at separated times. Something like a stretching/hanging routine for a few months and then I’d switch to a pumping/engorgement routine for a few months. But then again, I ain’t no PE scientist…

I was pumping/hanging/and clamping.

Trouble is I was already at my plateau, and was using this to break it.

I was seeing some girth gains but nothing in a long time for length.

So as of now I am about halfway through my deconditioning break.

After that is over I plan to do Babbis’s routine, and concentrate on length.

Girth is slow and steady with me but not hard to get.

Length is borderline impossible for some reason so I am doing the less is more to see how it turns out.

If nothing happens, then I’m going back to the trio combo.

If it won’t be long, then it will be fucking fat.

Have you tried to go on a stretching and/or hanging only routine? I mean no jelqs or squeezes at all?

I ain’t no MD but I doubt that regular PE (without serious injuries) creates scar tissue in the penis. Any references on that?

Anyways I do have scarring (from surgery)

So I know it is tougher.

And I am starting a new and lighter exercise plan for length only.

Starting with Babbis”s plan, and if I see nothing by the end of the fourth routine, I will step up with more manual stretches and light hanging.

I’m gonna lay off the pump a couple months just to see if I can get some

Length going.

And if not, like I said before, I’m doing it all!

And I’ll atleast have a fat little fucker. :)

I hang, jelq, and stretch, but I haven’t tried pumping. I have gained most from jelqing, I believe. As far as this scar tissue stuff goes, I am 150 percent on Thunder’s side in this. Back up your shit, and don’t give other members here the Tom Cruise “my way of thinking Matt Lauer, or you’re an idiot” attitude. All Thunder asked was for you to back up your claims about scarring.

GO SPURS GO

Jeez! What a turn of things.

Well anyway, I did search a little cause this scar tissue stuff scared me a little. Really didn’t find much except that

What is Scar Tissue? (with pictures)

For those who are too lazy to read it and who are as unscientific as I am, here’s the main quote I got from this site:
Scar tissue is the fibrous connective tissue which forms a scar; it can be found on any tissue on the body, including skin and internal organs, where an injury, cut, surgery or disease has taken place, and then healed.

I think that this pretty much confirms that, as I thought, normal PE doesn’t create scar tissue in the penis. If you hang 300lbs off your dick, rip it off and get it sewed back on, then you will definitely get scar tissue. But if you don’t suffer any major injury, I’m pretty sure you’ll never get scar tissue in your dick.

I am not keeping the argument going I am asking a question.

I looked for some more things on scar tissue build up and found some sites on pumping and what it takes to get bigger and they said that you need some scarring in the penile chambers to occurs to be able to get bigger. OK this somewhat how they said it.

When scarring occurs it repairs or heals the damage to the penile tissue it adds more tissue to the damaged area to get it to heal and the new tissue that scarring causes is the tissue that makes you get bigger in size.

Has anyone ever heard of this before and know if this is true or not?

If this is true I am still damaging my penis still because I am still seeing results from pumping with low pressure and doing my hand exercise.

If this is true; and what I found on scarring is true then you need a little scarring to get results but if the scarring is too severe then it will hinder the growth process.

Is there anybody here who knows if this is true or not.

I hope it is not true because I would hate to know I have still damaging my penis. But my blood test doesn’t show any rise in my White blood count to indicate I am still damaging my penis in any way.

It is suppose to be something like body building. You workout your muscles and damage the muscle tissue and then when it heals your muscles get bigger.