I've figured it out... 7.5 midshaft girth!

indeed9;

There are guys here at Thunder’s who think red spots are only stress indicators and are even desireable. They are stress indicators, but I don’t agree they are desireable. To me they show one is doing too much of something, either too much time spent in the cylinder or too much pressure, or some manual exercise also being used is too intense.

Cock rings during pumping can give more girth expansion during that particular session. Not necessary to use one every time, imo. RWG is using a shaft ring for sex. A lot of us do, either every time or now and then. Braker said not long ago that he uses one now every time he fucks because he loves the look of it and his partners love the feel of it.

It’s not necessary to pack a cylinder as soon as you enter it. If you’re seeing gradual expansion over time, gradually you try to build enough permanent girth to pack consistently, then graduate to a larger cylinder.

You’re only three weeks into this. Don’t expect miracles. :-)

cockring users:

Guys, maybe one of us ought to put cockring benefits into a new thread so the topic and info is clearer and in one place?

RB,

Yes, for the most part it stays, however on the 4th day it has about returned to normal… No doubt that the pump will give you girth RIGHT NOW and if there are other things that will help cement that then it’s a marriage made in heaven… Never thought of it that way but I am now LOL…

Whome1269,

Yep, low pressure is the way to go for sure… No fluid build up and the effect last longer then messing around on the high side of the guage… I could have been doing it wrong all of this time as I would go up to 10HG then let it drop to around 6 before jacking the pressure up again… No more of that for me… 2 - 3,4 HG of pressure is PLENTY….

I’m glad to hear that you reached 7.5” in girth and that your lady enjoyed it. I knew that 7-8” girths had their purposes, and that some women will appreciate them very much.

Im really happy for you RWG…and your post confirms what I had known for many years through my own experience:

Low intensity pumping for periods of 45 min. or more is the way to go for girth gains. Until someone can prove to me that there is a better way I will stick with that approach for girth. Back in the day, I used nothing more than the pump combined with light massaging and what DLD likes to call “un-knowing PE” and I achieved a girth of over 7”. Really glad to see your post. :)

Supersizeit,

you are so right about the pressure thing working out better… I figured that more pressure was better but learned that was not the case… I think fluid build-up is very counter productive and now see if I wanted 8” midshaft girth I could easily get it, especially with what I’m starting out with… I should wake up early and do a 45 minute session before I leave for work and do it again at night.. I’m addicted to snuggling up next to my wifes butt so that would be hard….

SSI,

7 inches in girth?

That does it, I’m pumping.

I saw a few pumper forums with pictures that just freaked me out. Images no man should have to witness, but I suppose you’ll find a few wacked out groups in every field…

If pumping helps draw blood in the penis, not just fluid, then we have expansion happening. And if we’re drawing more in than simply by jelqing (as evidenced by the increase in size users are reporting) then we’ll have accerated growth.

Sounds reasonable, so why is pumping discredited so frequently? Is it from all the wing nuts pumping their dick up to the size of balloons then watching it deflate?

Strange world.

N.

supersizeit and regularwhiteguy,

I’m curious about pumping for longer periods. I have been following avocet’s regimen for three months now and feel that it is great. I’m gainging lenght, and only a fraction in girth. I have read in avocet8’s post pumping 101 that he did not see any “improved” or “increased” gains by pumping for longer periods. I’m sticking to 8-10 minutes at a time in the tube at 2.5 - 4 hg.

rwg, are you saying that you leave the pump on for 45min strainght, or that you pump in intervals totalling 45 minutes? What did you do supersizeit, to reach your past girth of 7”. Did you pump in intervals. I’m sticking to what is currently working for me and others, but I’m open to learn about more. Especially if this will help me to get very girthy.

northstar;

Pumping gets a bad rap for the very reason you reference. The pics of distorted, overpumped dicks are what get most of the (startled!) attention. Fortunately even urologists and GPs are seeing the light and recommending sensible pumping for better erectile function and improved penile vascular systems.

I was on DLD’s secret sauce and seeing some RAPID gains then hurt myself a little bit… End result was I layed off the manual stretching and jelqing… I thought that a little pumping wouldn’t hurt…. I was doing short pump sessions w/ 100 or so jelqs after each 5 minutes in the tube… It was a good workout but my pressure was high…

I go from 45 minutes to a full hour and exit the tube about 3 to 4 times total… I notice a slight “heat” or burning sensation on the underside of the trout and come out of the tube right away, get erect and go back in keeping the pressure very low… I think what is happening is that if you go in fully erect and apply just a little pressure it’s like keeping a hard on for an extended period of time… Who knows where you would end up with a year of that… I remember a guy “MNliving” or something like that who had a midshaft girth of like 9 1/2 inches x 11 inches long.. I’m going nowhere near that LOL… He did it with pumping… I’m after 3/4 of an inch length is all.. I started out with 6.5 girth @ midshaft and my wife only lets me fuck her in the ass once a year so I don’t really want to screw that up anymore then it is already…

Hah!

I know sample size is too limited to support conclusive results…but it seems long term, sensible pumpers have significant size.

Advocet8, Peforeal, SSI, RWG, all you guys pump and have girth over 6 inches.

And I’m sure there’s lots more pumpers out there.

The evidence is mounting…

N.

Northstar,

I started out with 6.5 girth @ midshaft… Now that I’m using the pump like Avocet said I should at the very start (low pressure) I think I’m going to jump up quickly in girth… I’ve only been doing it right for about 4 days and everything is better… I’m going to force myself to do it twice a day for 30 days and see what happens… Not sure when I will start the twice a day thing but I will… I can hardly wait to get back to my manual training that I’m doing under DLD’s direction… Got a week to go…

I just wanted to post another testimonial for pumping. I have been doing it for a couple of months now, and it has definitely increased the girth, permanently. I would guess my mid shaft girth is a bit above 6”. I used to see a lot better gains when I was frightened of going above 5 Hg. Then I got impatient and started pumping up to 10 Hg for a bit to stretch myself real good. My goal is to hit the end of my 9 1/2” cylinder but even at 10 Hg, I am a good inch and a half away. Girth gains seem to be coming faster than length gains, possibly because I am not packing the tube. Either way, I just wanted to help convince more people to pump. It really works.

When I first started pumping years ago, I really wasn’t aware that I should or should not be doing intervals so I basically had one continuous session.
I began with 15 min and when I noticed that my foreskin would get all bloated and have that weird shape (dough-nut effect) I would get scared and back off. I later became more comfortable with that phenomenon when I realized that it would always go back to normal appearance after about 8-12 hours. (Depending on the workout)
Also my unit began to gain a higher tolerance for the fluid buildup.

Over time I gradually arrived at the point where I was able to keep it in the chamber for periods of as much as an hour but I would release the pressure every ten minutes or so for only 30 seconds or so to give my unit a breather and and maybe a light massage.

I learned to alternate very short (7-10 min) high intensity with longer (45-60 min) low/moderate intensity workouts and also alternate my routine every so often as a way of keeping my unit in a constant state of confusion…

This is similar to what a bodybuilder might do to confuse his muscles otherwise you allow the body to start adapting to the stress level to a point where new growth is no longer stimulated (plateau)
Total time pumping per day would vary from 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

thanks supersizeit.