Water pumping

I think having a hard erection is essential. I don’t believe the vacuum expands the tunica. I think that what it does do is take external pressure off so that internal pressure can have a greater effect. In other words, hardness and constant kegelling are critical factors in making gains with a pump.

IMHO

A vacuum pump will induce an erection by definition. This is its actual porpoise and it does it really well. The point is it gives you a passive erection, which means that the circulation of blood is less active than when you have a real one, in fact, afterwards, some have to wear a cock ring in order to prevent it to subside. Certainly, being able to have a real erection while pumping would help, but refraining from pumping just because you don’t have one would not; indeed, most people would not have an erected state for one or two hours a day (unless they are copulating like rabbits), it follows that they have to accept the fact that most of the training time is passed in a state of passive erection, which is still better than not to train.

hmmm, maybe you’re right, but I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing.

it was said that if you pump in water you feel strain at a lower gauge read.

I’m not arguing that pressure is not the same thing in water and air, I’m just saying that the situation is more complex than two chambers with different pressure. You have three: outside tube, inside tube and inside penis, where the gauge read is the sum of the penis and the tube pressure.

By adding a incompressible medium in the tube you eliminate that complexity, now you’re just left with the tension force from the stretched penis. My point is that the only force acting on the gauge now is just the tension forces from the stretched fibers inside the penis, and not a sum of those and the negative pressure in the tube. That’s why I think it’s right to say that you can feel a greater stretch at lower gauge reads with water pumping.

As you stretch fibers in cc’s and cs, they act like rubber-bands, exerting forces to counter the expansion. These forces also shows up on the gauge.

I’ve tried to make a little sketch to show what I mean.

Ft= is the force from the penis fibers.
Fa= is the force from the air with low pressure, suction force.
Fp= is the force exerted by the pump.
G=is supposed to by a gauge.

This is how it looks in my head; the decompressed air is acting as a rubberband between the penis and the force from the pump. This is causing higher readings than with incompressible water. On the other hand, the water is acting like a string.

I don’t think I’m far off here, but please correct me if I’m wrong

And my opinion is that a passive erection is just a weak erection. If you’re not producing pressure from the inside, then you’re not stressing the tunica, hence no gains. IMO :-)

Where’s the two hours come from? I don’t pump for two hours.

Thanks buby

Either you stress it from in or outside, your tunica will receive some sort of pressure: negative or positive. I had tunica gains by pumping: believe me. It takes long time at low pressure. Indeed, why should everybody take for granted it takes two hours a day to hang and not to pump, anyways. Better it is to stress it from both sides, hence the convenience of jelqing after pumping and I would add, from pumping after hanging, to top it out with clamping after jelqing.

I know it takes a lot of time…

You are welcome, Tick.

I don’t understand how to get water into the cylinder. Do you have a pic ?

Keep the plastic tube under water, and the negative pressure will suck the water backwards into the cylinder, repeat over again.

I read the step by step instructions. Okay…my GED is just not kicking in. Is there a video that someone can recommend?

A passive erection does not stimulate grown for most if us. I used to only pump, with a raging erection, and had some growth. Now I’m doing stretches and squeezes and by the time I get to BM I’m too tired to get a strong erection. I’m not getting near as much results from the bathmate, just edema.

I am trying this method., I have an LA pump with a replacement hose and the male coupling to secure both the pump and hose. I have tried sucking the air out and it creates almost no pressure or vacuum. What am I doing wrong?

Can anyone explain the mechanics behind why pumping with too much pressure can lead to EQ decline? I seem to be pretty sensitive to small increases in pressure, if I go slightly too high, I can’t get an erection after a pumping session. Wondering if anyone knew the reason. Thx.

Not sure about the science behind, but it can be just conditioning of the tissues. Just like any muscle, if you exercise biceps for example for the first time, and you go with the maximum possible weight, chances are for the next 2 days you wont even be able to lift your arms. But if you start with low weights and build it over time, no problem.

In the case of pumping could be the same. I did not have that problem because I started pumping years after starting PE, but I imagine that if your tissues are not conditioned, a little pressure can put your tissues under fatigue. If you keep pumping at very low pressure, you will be able to build up slowly over time. Just like in bodybuilding, is not about the weight, is about the execution of the exercise. Strength and weight comes over time. For PE is the same.