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So I’ve been a long time lurker, but haven’t really found something that was so profound that I had to comment on it, until recently. I’ve recently been doing a lot of reading here on the concepts of anatomical biology, most notably in the specific science of the ligs, their composition and the properties of these collagenous tissues in our bodies. I must say, this is a community has some of the brightest minds, and some of the best most knowledgeable theories on gains, and more specifically what gains consist of. That being said, I personally would have to say that I’ve experienced the best gains in my 9 months of PE, putting to use the theories surrounding stress relaxation and collagenous tissue softening. I also believe that over-training was what held me back from gaining the past three months, minus these past couple of weeks.

So what is it specifically that’s contributed to my gains?

I believe initially I was applying too much force in my manual stretching. This resulted in elastic deformation, (search button, well worth the read) and not the plastic deformation I was seeking. I’m sure a lot of men have done this. I can also say that if you tailor a stretching campaign around harnessing the gains achievable by plastic deformation you will achieve them.

Now onto where I started, when I started gaining, which exercises contributed to my gains and, my current routine.

My starting point for PE was a relatively rough one. I had a real turtling problem because due to turkeyneck from what I believe to be a combination of an overzealous circumcision and being grossly overweight. My flaccid was something akin to an acorn in shape and maybe an inch. I had lived my entire life like this up until this point. When a friend that was sitting on my lap noticed a great deal of retraction (went from hard to soft, and really small) I decided enough was enough and started trying to find a proactive option to lengthen my unit. That’s when I stumbled across Thunders.

I didn’t do all my measurements initially, (which I now regret) despite reading how I should have over and over, mostly as a combination of shame, and disbelief in how small I actually was but the one measurement I did take, as it was the one I wanted to increase the most was NBPEL. That went from roughly 4.6 to 4.9 by the end of my first week. I was sold. Since I was doing the newbie routine, there was a considerable amount of jelqing and I noticed my erections getting much stronger and a sudden girth increase. I shortly after recorded and MSEG of roughly 4.9. This was a great deal larger than when I had initially started. I was sold yet again.

During my first couple of months I was quietly soaking in a lot of information around the forum, I did the newbie routine almost exclusively and I gained up to 5.5 NBPEL. This was my first plateau and I did not surpass this until roughly 3 weeks ago. During the plateau I was using way too much force, manically attempting to make it grow despite its resistance. This I believe caused trauma to the innermost penis and resulted in retraction of a qtr inch. Despite being heartbroken, I continued to PE and started looking into some reasons behind this here on the form and that’s when I stumbled across a theory found on post 40 of Tricks And Tips For Manual Stretching and that changed the way I looked at PE, at least the stretching aspect. That night I started my routine at 5.5 NBPEL and ended around 5.8 NBPEL. I was very satisfied to break that initial plateau. After implementing these stretching techniques, today I’m a 6 NBPEL and when I PE’d earlier I very comfortably stretched to a 6.3 that casually stuck around for a couple hours. (I don’t normally measure that manically, but it was just so huge for me)

If you haven’t yet, read that post and try to soak in the theories behind it.

Considering what I learned in that thread I’ve tried to restructure my routine around it. I do 3-4 10 min workouts a day. 7 days on, at least on rest day a month. I do roughly 8 minutes of stretching, and roughly 2-3 mins of jelqing or clamped jelqing to kind of fill the tissues stretched tissues. Not much in the terms of jelqing, as I’m not going for girth quite yet. This workout, on especially productive days, yields almost immediate gains for me. I think it has something to do with my new and revised approach. I no longer attempt to lengthen the ligs, but stretch them, right on the threshold of retraction. I don’t want them to retract, so I stay free and clear of any pain and stretch roughly a millimeter every 45-60 seconds. With the right amount of force, you can sustain this slow stretch for very long periods of time. On days where I can, I try to throw in at least one 15-20 minute workout. Based on these principles and when I do, I get nothing but good PI’s and usually a couple millimeters of sustained post workout length for quite a few hours.

I would say its a combination of understanding and applying these principles that have lead to me overcoming my plateau, and gaining .5 NBPEL in these past 3 weeks.

I will update with any insight or gains I experience while on this current campaign. Any and all response welcome.

So I’ve been a long time lurker, but haven’t really found something that was so profound that I had to comment on it, until recently. I’ve recently been doing a lot of reading here on the concepts of anatomical biology, most notably in the specific science of the ligs, their composition and the properties of these collagenous tissues in our bodies. I must say, this is a community has some of the brightest minds, and some of the best most knowledgeable theories on gains, and more specifically what gains consist of. That being said, I personally would have to say that I’ve experienced the best gains in my 9 months of PE, putting to use the theories surrounding stress relaxation and collagenous tissue softening. I also believe that over-training was what held me back from gaining the past three months, minus these past couple of weeks.

So what is it specifically that’s contributed to my gains?

I believe initially I was applying too much force in my manual stretching. This resulted in elastic deformation, (search button, well worth the read) and not the plastic deformation I was seeking. I’m sure a lot of men have done this. I can also say that if you tailor a stretching campaign around harnessing the gains achievable by plastic deformation you will achieve them.

Now onto where I started, when I started gaining, which exercises contributed to my gains and, my current routine.

My starting point for PE was a relatively rough one. I had a real turtling problem because due to turkeyneck from what I believe to be a combination of an overzealous circumcision and being grossly overweight. My flaccid was something akin to an acorn in shape and maybe an inch. I had lived my entire life like this up until this point. When a friend that was sitting on my lap noticed a great deal of retraction (went from hard to soft, and really small) I decided enough was enough and started trying to find a proactive option to lengthen my unit. That’s when I stumbled across Thunders.

I didn’t do all my measurements initially, (which I now regret) despite reading how I should have over and over, mostly as a combination of shame, and disbelief in how small I actually was but the one measurement I did take, as it was the one I wanted to increase the most was NBPEL. That went from roughly 4.6 to 4.9 by the end of my first week. I was sold. Since I was doing the newbie routine, there was a considerable amount of jelqing and I noticed my erections getting much stronger and a sudden girth increase. I shortly after recorded and MSEG of roughly 4.9. This was a great deal larger than when I had initially started. I was sold yet again.

During my first couple of months I was quietly soaking in a lot of information around the forum, I did the newbie routine almost exclusively and I gained up to 5.5 NBPEL. This was my first plateau and I did not surpass this until roughly 3 weeks ago. During the plateau I was using way too much force, manically attempting to make it grow despite its resistance. This I believe caused trauma to the innermost penis and resulted in retraction of a qtr inch. Despite being heartbroken, I continued to PE and started looking into some reasons behind this here on the form and that’s when I stumbled across a theory found on post 40 of Tricks And Tips For Manual Stretching and that changed the way I looked at PE, at least the stretching aspect. That night I started my routine at 5.5 NBPEL and ended around 5.8 NBPEL. I was very satisfied to break that initial plateau. After implementing these stretching techniques, today I’m a 6 NBPEL and when I PE’d earlier I very comfortably stretched to a 6.3 that casually stuck around for a couple hours. (I don’t normally measure that manically, but it was just so huge for me)

If you haven’t yet, read that post and try to soak in the theories behind it.

Considering what I learned in that thread I’ve tried to restructure my routine around it. I do 3-4 10 min workouts a day. 7 days on, at least on rest day a month. I do roughly 8 minutes of stretching, and roughly 2-3 mins of jelqing or clamped jelqing to kind of fill the tissues stretched tissues. Not much in the terms of jelqing, as I’m not going for girth quite yet. This workout, on especially productive days, yields almost immediate gains for me. I think it has something to do with my new and revised approach. I no longer attempt to lengthen the ligs, but stretch them, right on the threshold of retraction. I don’t want them to retract, so I stay free and clear of any pain and stretch roughly a millimeter every 45-60 seconds. With the right amount of force, you can sustain this slow stretch for very long periods of time. On days where I can, I try to throw in at least one 15-20 minute workout. Based on these principles and when I do, I get nothing but good PI’s and usually a couple millimeters of sustained post workout length for quite a few hours.

I would say its a combination of understanding and applying these principles that have lead to me overcoming my plateau, and gaining .5 NBPEL in these past 3 weeks.

I will update with any insight or gains I experience while on this current campaign. Any and all response welcome.