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This is my first post on Thunder’s. I am 24 years old and have been been PE’ing on and off since around the beginning of 2015. During this time I made no noticeable gains. This was essentially because I was overtraining and started using the Bathmate too early, or at all (more on this later). I was also not very consistent with my workouts or my routines.

I took a couple of months off to de-condition and started taking things more seriously and becoming more consistent with completing my workouts at the back end of January this year. Initially, I started very light with 4x30 stretches and 10 jelqs. I would add a 1x30 stretch in a different direction every week and increased the number of jelqs by 5 every 3rd workout. I used both an underhand and an overhand grip, mostly overhand though. Furthermore, I also did fowfers but later dropped these as I started becoming too inconsistent with them. My routine was Monday, Tuesday on, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday on, weekend off.

Moreover, I would run the routine in cycles, 6 weeks on and 1 week off to de-condition my penis. I did 2 cycles so a little more than 3 months worth of PE. From looking back through my log my PI indicators were great, lots of night wood, larger flaccid hang and several positive comments from my girlfriend that make me think I was heading in the right direction (she doesn’t know I do PE).

Unfortunately, afterwards, things stated going wrong. In my third cycle, I began adding pumping to my routine (Bathmate) as my main goal is to achieve more girth and improve flaccid hang. I changed from my old routine of 4 days on and 3 days off in a week to 5 days on and 2 days off - Monday to Friday on, weekends off.

I had read online that it was first best to condition the penis by using the Bathmate flaccid and to slowly increase to higher erection levels. During this time I continued to add 1x30 stretch every week but kept the number of jelqs I had at worked up to at 100. I changed my routine so that manual exercises were only performed on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My thinking at the time was I would use Tuesday and Thursday as active recovery days where I would only use the Bathmate flaccid. In hindsight, I realised I would have been better off just keeping them as complete rest days.

From looking at the notes of the log I made, for the first few weeks I did not seem to be overtraining as I was still getting some decent PI’s. However, in week 3 I stopped getting any night wood and on the Saturday of week 4 I literally couldn’t get hard. This seemed to happen when I increased my time in the Bathmate from 7.5 minutes to 10 minutes. However, it could have been just as likely that I simply used too much pressure, or a combination of both. Note, I still wasn’t even going in fully hard at this point. As such, I cut my cycle short and took two weeks off.

I began my 4th cycle by changing my workout again, this time by removing the active recovery days and only training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with weekends off. Occasionally, I would also use the Bathmate for 10 minutes on Saturdays before seeing my girlfriend. I reduced my number of jelqs to 25 and started using the bathmate with a full erection. I started the duration at 5 minutes and eventually worked up to a maximum of 15 minutes. I continued with adding a 1x30 stretch every workout. At one point, I had never seen my flaccid hang so good before and I was really enjoying having sex with my girlfriend because it definitely felt and looked wider, even when having sex on a rest day. Ultimately though, this didn’t last and I began overtraining again when I increased the Bathmate duration to 15 minutes per session.

I currently plan to take the next 4-6 weeks off from PE and allow my penis to de-condition so I can start again. I measured myself yesterday and I am 6.4 BPEL (6.5 if I push a little harder) and 4.5 inches in girth mid shaft. When I first started PE back in January I measured myself at 6.2 BPEL and 4.5 inches in girth so I do believe I made some minor gains in length.

From going back through my notes, and writing this post, on reflection, it’s not really surprising that I have only seen gains in length, it’s the only thing I have kept somewhat consistent. I regard the Bathmate now as more of a toy than anything else, something that’s nice to use before sex but is never going to allow me to be consistent enough without a gauge for me to make gains. When I start PE again I plan on buying an air pump from Thickwall so I can take more accurate pressure readings and make my workouts more consistent.

Although, I do not plan on PE’ing until at least next month, I am writing this post now for anyone who feels they can offer some advice in advance. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in what I have done previously. I plan on keeping a progress log here as I feel I have a much better chance of reaching my goals with help from some of the members on this forum to keep me right.

My current line of thought is that I will start conservatively by PE’ing 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) before eventually moving back to a 4 day week cycle (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). I will pump at between 3-5 Hg for 5 minutes per session, slowing working up to 20 minutes. I will continue adding 1x30 stretch every week until I reach 15 minutes of stretching. After this I may start to add some v-jelqs. I was thinking of starting with 50 jelqs and eventually increasing this again slowly after I’ve worked my way up to 20 minutes pumping at 5 Hg. Does this seem like a sensible routine going forward based on what I have done before? Would it better to start with a 4 day schedule straight away?

I know I’ve changed my routine too many times and this hasn’t helped. This is why I am a little confused on how it would be best to start PE’ing again.

Thank you for anyone who takes the time to read this and comment in the meantime.

This is my first post on Thunder’s. I am 24 years old and have been been PE’ing on and off since around the beginning of 2015. During this time I made no noticeable gains. This was essentially because I was overtraining and started using the Bathmate too early, or at all (more on this later). I was also not very consistent with my workouts or my routines.

I took a couple of months of time off to de-condition and started taking things more seriously and becoming more consistent with completing my workouts at the back end of January this year. Initially, I started very light with 4x30 stretches and 10 jelqs. I would add a 1x30 stretch in a different direction every week and increased the number of jelqs by 5 every 3rd workout. I used both an underhand and an overhand grip, mostly overhand though. Furthermore, I also did fowfers but later dropped these as I started becoming too inconsistent with them. My routine was Monday, Tuesday on, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday on, weekend off.

Moreover, I would run the routine in cycles, 6 weeks on and 1 week off to de-condition my penis. I did 2 cycles so a little more than 3 months worth of PE. From looking back through my log my PI indicators were great, lots of night wood, larger flaccid hang and several positive comments from my girlfriend that make me think I was heading in the right direction (she doesn’t know I do PE).

Unfortunately, afterwards, things stated going wrong. In my third cycle, I began adding pumping to my routine (Bathmate) as my main goal is to achieve more girth and improve flaccid hang. I changed from my old routine of 4 days on and 3 days off in a week to 5 days on and 2 days off - Monday to Friday on, weekends off.

I had read online that it was first best to condition the penis by using the Bathmate flaccid and to slowly increase to higher erection levels. During this time I continued to add 1x30 stretch every week but kept the number of jelqs I had at worked up to at 100. I changed my routine so that manual exercises were only performed on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My thinking at the time was I would use Tuesday and Thursday as active recovery days where I would only use the Bathmate flaccid. In hindsight, I realised I would have been better off just keeping them as complete rest days.

From looking at the notes of the log I made, for the first few weeks I did not seem to be overtraining as I was still getting some decent PI’s. However, in week 3 I stopped getting any night wood and on the Saturday of week 4 I literally couldn’t get hard. This seemed to happen when I increased my time in the Bathmate from 7.5 minutes to 10 minutes. However, it could have been just as likely that I simply used too much pressure, or a combination of both. Note, I still wasn’t even going in fully hard at this point. As such, I cut my cycle short and took two weeks off.

I began my 4th cycle by changing my workout again, this time by removing the active recovery days and only training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with weekends off. Occasionally, I would also use the Bathmate for 10 minutes on Saturdays before seeing my girlfriend. I reduced my number of jelqs to 25 and started using the bathmate with a full erection. I started the duration at 5 minutes and eventually worked up to a maximum of 15 minutes. I continued with adding a 1x30 stretch every workout. At one point, I had never seen my flaccid hang so good before and I was really enjoying having sex with my girlfriend because it definitely felt and looked wider, even when having sex on a rest day. Ultimately though, this didn’t last and I began overtraining again when I increased the Bathmate duration to 15 minutes per session.

I currently plan to take the next 4-6 weeks off from PE and allow my penis to de-condition so I can start again. I measured myself yesterday and I am 6.4 BPEL (6.5 if I push a little harder) and 4.5 inches in girth mid shaft. When I first started PE back in January I measured myself at 6.2 BPEL and 4.5 inches in girth so I do believe I made some minor gains in length.

From going back through my notes, and writing this post, on reflection, it’s not really surprising that I have only seen gains in length, it’s the only thing I have kept somewhat consistent. I regard the Bathmate now as more of a toy than anything else, something that’s nice to use before sex but is never going to allow me to be consistent enough without a gauge for me to make gains. When I start PE again I plan on buying an air pump from Thickwall so I can take more accurate pressure readings and make my workouts more consistent.

Although, I do not plan on PE’ing until at least next month, I am writing this post now for anyone who feels they can offer some advice in advance. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in what I have done previously. I plan on keeping a progress log here as I feel I have a much better chance of reaching my goals with help from some of the members on this forum to keep me right.

My current line of thought is that I will start conservatively by PE’ing 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) before eventually moving back to a 4 day week cycle (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). I will pump at between 3-5 Hg for 5 minutes per session, slowing working up to 20 minutes. I will continue adding 1x30 stretch every week until I reach 15 minutes of stretching. After this I may start to add some v-jelqs. I was thinking of starting with 50 jelqs and eventually increasing this again slowly after I’ve worked my way up to 20 minutes pumping at 5 Hg. Does this seem like a sensible routine going forward based on what I have done before? Would it better to start with a 4 day schedule straight away?

I know I’ve changed my routine too many times and this hasn’t helped. This is why I am a little confused on how it would be best to start PE’ing again.

Thank you for anyone who takes the time to read this and comment in the meantime.

This is my first post on Thunder’s. I am 24 years old and have been been PE’ing on and off since around the beginning of 2015. During this time I made no noticeable gains. This was essentially because I was overtraining and started using the Bathmate too early, or at all (more on this later). I was also not very consistent with my workouts or my routines.

I took a couple of months of time off to de-condition and started taking things more seriously and becoming more consistent with completing my workouts at the back end of January this year. Initially, I started very light with 4x30 stretches and 10 jelqs. I would add a 1x30 stretch in a different direction every week and increased the number of jelqs by 5 every 3rd workout. I used both an underhand and an overhand grip, mostly overhand though. Furthermore, I also did fowfers but later dropped these as I started becoming too inconsistent with them. My routine was Monday, Tuesday on, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday on, weekend off.

Moreover, I would run the routine in cycles, 6 weeks on and 1 week off to de-condition my penis. I did 2 cycles so a little more than 3 months worth of PE. From looking back through my log my PI indicators were great, lots of night wood, larger flaccid hang and several positive comments from my girlfriend that make me think I was heading in the right direction (she doesn’t know I do PE).

Unfortunately, afterwards, things stated going wrong. In my third cycle, I began adding pumping to my routine (Bathmate) as my main goal is to achieve more girth and improve flaccid hang. I changed from my old routine of 4 days on and 3 days off in a week to 5 days on and 2 days off - Monday to Friday on, weekends off.

I had read online that it was first best to condition the penis by using the Bathmate flaccid and to slowly increase to higher erection levels. During this time I continued to add 1x30 stretch every week but kept the number of jelqs I had at worked up to at 100. I changed my routine so that manual exercises were only performed on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My thinking at the time was I would use Tuesday and Thursday as active recovery days where I would only use the Bathmate flaccid. In hindsight, I realised I would have been better off just keeping them as complete rest days.

From looking at the notes of the log I made, for the first few weeks I did not seem to be overtraining as I was still getting some decent PI’s. However, in week 3 I stopped getting any night wood and on the Saturday of week 4 I literally couldn’t get hard. This seemed to happen when I increased my time in the Bathmate from 7.5 minutes to 10 minutes. However, it could have been just as likely that I simply used too much pressure, or a combination of both. Note, I still wasn’t even going in fully hard at this point. As such, I cut my cycle short and took two weeks off.

I began my 4th cycle by changing my workout again, this time by removing the active recovery days and only training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with weekends off. Occasionally, I would also use the Bathmate for 10 minutes on Saturdays before seeing my girlfriend. I reduced my number of jelqs to 25 and started using the bathmate with a full erection. I started the duration at 5 minutes and eventually worked up to a maximum of 15 minutes. I continued with adding a 1x30 stretch every workout. At one point, I had never seen my flaccid hang so good before and I was really enjoying having sex with my girlfriend because it definitely felt and looked wider, even when having sex on a rest day. Ultimately though, this didn’t last and I began overtraining again when I increased the Bathmate duration to 15 minutes per session.

I currently plan to take the next 4-6 weeks off from PE and allow my penis to de-condition so I can start again. I measured myself yesterday and I am 6.4 BPEL (6.5 if I push a little harder) and 4.5 inches in girth mid shaft. When I first started PE back in January I measured myself at 6.2 BPEL and 4.5 inches in girth so I do believe I made some minor gains in length.

From going back through my notes, and writing this post, on reflection, it’s not really surprising that I have only seen gains in length, it’s the only thing I have kept somewhat consistent. I regard the Bathmate now as more of a toy than anything else, something that’s nice to use before sex but is never going to allow me to be consistent enough without a gauge for me to make gains. When I start PE again I plan on buying an air pump from Thickwall so I can take more accurate pressure readings and make my workouts more consistent.

Although, I do not plan on PE’ing until at least next month, I am writing this post now for anyone who feels they can offer some advice in advance. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in what I have done previously. I plan on keeping a progress log here as I feel I have a much better chance of reaching my goals with help from some of the members on this forum to keep me right.

My current line of thought is that I will start conservatively by PE’ing 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) before eventually moving back to a 4 day week cycle (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). I will pump at between 3-5hg for 5 minutes per session, slowing working up to 20 minutes. I will continue adding 1x30 stretch every week until I reach 15 minutes of stretching. After this I may start to add some v-jelqs. I was thinking of starting with 50 jelqs and eventually increasing this again slowly after I’ve worked my way up to 20 minutes pumping at 5hg. Does this seem like a sensible routine going forward based on what I have done before? Would it better to start with a 4 day schedule straight away?

I know I’ve changed my routine too many times and this hasn’t helped. This is why I am a little confused on how it would be best to start PE’ing again.

Thank you for anyone who takes the time to read this and comment.

This is my first post on Thunder’s. I am 24 years old and have been been PE’ing on and off since around the beginning of 2015. During this time I made no noticeable gains. This was essentially because I was overtraining and started using the Bathmate too early, or at all (more on this later). I was also not very consistent with my workouts or my routines.

I took a couple of months of time off to de-condition and started taking things more seriously and becoming more consistent with completing my workouts at the back end of January this year. Initially, I started very light with 4x30 stretches and 10 jelqs. I would add a 1x30 stretch in a different direction every week and increased the number of jelqs by 5 every 3rd workout. I used both an underhand and an overhand grip, mostly overhand though. Furthermore, I also did fowfers but later dropped these as I started becoming too inconsistent with them. My routine was Monday, Tuesday on, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday on, weekend off.

Moreover, I would run the routine in cycles, 6 weeks on and 1 week off to de-condition my penis. I did 2 cycles so a little more than 3 months worth of PE. From looking back through my log my PI indicators were great, lots of night wood, larger flaccid hang and several positive comments from my girlfriend that make me think I was heading in the right direction (she doesn’t know I do PE).

Unfortunately, afterwards, things stated going wrong. In my third cycle, I began adding pumping to my routine (Bathmate) as my main goal is to achieve more girth and improve flaccid hang. I changed from my old routine of 4 days on and 3 days off in a week to 5 days on and 2 days off - Monday to Friday on, weekends off.

I had read online that it was first best to condition the penis by using the Bathmate flaccid and to slowly increase to higher erections level. During this time I continued to add 1x30 stretch every week but kept the number of jelqs I had at worked up to at 100. I changed my routine so that manual exercises were only performed on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My thinking at the time was I would use Tuesday and Thursday as active recovery days where I would only use the Bathmate flaccid. In hindsight, I realised I would have been better off just keeping them as complete rest days.

From looking at the notes of the log I made, for the first few weeks I did not seem to be overtraining as I was still getting some decent PI’s. However, in week 3 I stopped getting any night wood and on the Saturday of week 4 I literally couldn’t get hard. This seemed to happen when I increased my time in the Bathmate from 7.5 minutes to 10 minutes. However, it could have been just as likely that I simply used too much pressure, or a combination of both. Note, I still wasn’t even going in fully hard at this point. As such, I cut my cycle short and took two weeks off.

I began my 4th cycle by changing my workout again, this time by removing the active recovery days and only training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with weekends off. Occasionally, I would also use the Bathmate for 10 minutes on Saturdays before seeing my girlfriend. I reduced my number of jelqs to 25 and started using the bathmate with a full erection. I started the duration at 5 minutes and eventually worked up to a maximum of 15 minutes. I continued with adding a 1x30 stretch every workout. At one point, I had never seen my flaccid hang so good before and I was really enjoying having sex with my girlfriend because it definitely felt and looked wider, even when having sex on a rest day. Ultimately though, this didn’t last and I began overtraining again when I increased the Bathmate duration to 15 minutes per session.

I currently plan to take the next 4-6 weeks off from PE and allow my penis to de-condition so I can start again. I measured myself yesterday and I am 6.4 BPEL (6.5 if I push a little harder) and 4.5 inches in girth mid shaft. When I first started PE back in January I measured myself at 6.2 BPEL and 4.5 inches in girth so I do believe I made some minor gains in length.

From going back through my notes, and writing this post, on reflection, it’s not really surprising that I have only seen gains in length, it’s the only thing I have kept somewhat consistent. I regard the Bathmate now as more of a toy than anything else, something that’s nice to use before sex but is never going to allow me to be consistent enough without a gauge for me to make gains. When I start PE again I plan on buying an air pump from Thickwall so I can take more accurate pressure readings and make my workouts more consistent.

Although, I do not plan on PE’ing until at least next month, I am writing this post now for anyone who feels they can offer some advice in advance. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in what I have done previously. I plan on keeping a progress log here as I feel I have a much better chance of reaching my goals with help from some of the members on this forum to keep me right.

My current line of thought is that I will start conservatively by PE’ing 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) before eventually moving back to a 4 day week cycle (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). I will pump at between 3-5hg for 5 minutes per session, slowing working up to 20 minutes. I will continue adding 1x30 stretch every week until I reach 15 minutes of stretching. After this I may start to add some v-jelqs. I was thinking of starting with 50 jelqs and eventually increasing this again slowly after I’ve worked my way up to 20 minutes pumping at 5hg. Does this seem like a sensible routine going forward based on what I have done before? Would it better to start with a 4 day schedule straight away?

I know I’ve changed my routine too many times and this hasn’t helped. This is why I am a little confused on how it would be best to start PE’ing again.

Thank you for anyone who takes the time to read this and comment.

This is my first post on Thunder’s. I am 24 years old and have been been PE’ing on and off since around the beginning of 2015. During this time I made no noticeable gains. This was essentially because I was overtraining and started using the Bathmate too early, or at all (more on this later). I was also not very consistent with my workouts or my routines.

I took a couple of months of time off to de-condition and started taking things more seriously and becoming more consistent with completing my workouts at the back end of January this year. Initially, I started very light with 4x30 stretches and 10 jelqs. I would add a 1x30 stretch in a different direction every week and increased the number of jelqs by 5 every 3rd workout. I used both an underhand and an overhand grip, mostly overhand though. Furthermore, I also did fowfers but later dropped these as I started becoming too inconsistent with them. My routine was Monday, Tuesday on, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday on, weekend off.

Moreover, I would run the routine in cycles, 6 weeks on and 1 week off to de-condition my penis. I did 2 cycles so a little more than 3 months worth of PE. From looking back through my log my PI indicators were great, lots of night wood, larger flaccid hang and several positive comments from my girlfriend that make me think I was heading in the right direction (she doesn’t know I do PE).

Unfortunately, afterwards, things stated going wrong. In my third cycle, I began adding pumping to my routine (Bathmate) as my main goal is to achieve more girth and improve flaccid hang. I changed from my old routine of 4 days on and 3 days off in a week to 5 days on and 2 days off - Monday to Friday on, weekends off.

I had read online that it was first best to condition the penis by using the Bathmate flaccid and slowly increase to higher erections level. During this time I continued to add 1x30 stretch every week but kept the number of jelqs I had at worked up to at 100. I changed my routine so that manual exercises were only performed on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My thinking at the time was I would use Tuesday and Thursday as active recovery days where I would only use the Bathmate flaccid. In hindsight, I realised I would have been better off just keeping them as complete rest days.

From looking at the notes of the log I made, for the first few weeks I did not seem to be overtraining as I was still getting some decent PI’s. However, in week 3 I stopped getting any night wood and on the Saturday of week 4 I literally couldn’t get hard. This seemed to happen when I increased my time in the Bathmate from 7.5 minutes to 10 minutes. However, it could have been just as likely that I simply used too much pressure, or a combination of both. Note, I still wasn’t even going in fully hard at this point. As such, I cut my cycle short and took two weeks off.

I began my 4th cycle by changing my workout again, this time by removing the active recovery days and only training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with weekends off. Occasionally, I would also use the Bathmate for 10 minutes on Saturdays before seeing my girlfriend. I reduced my number of jelqs to 25 and started using the bathmate with a full erection. I started the duration at 5 minutes and eventually worked up to a maximum of 15 minutes. I continued with adding a 1x30 stretch every workout. At one point, I had never seen my flaccid hang so good before and I was really enjoying having sex with my girlfriend because it definitely felt and looked wider, even when having sex on a rest day. Ultimately though, this didn’t last and I began overtraining again when I increased the Bathmate duration to 15 minutes per session.

I currently plan to take the next 4-6 weeks off from PE and allow my penis to de-condition so I can start again. I measured myself yesterday and I am 6.4 BPEL (6.5 if I push a little harder) and 4.5 inches in girth mid shaft. When I first started PE back in January I measured myself at 6.2 BPEL and 4.5 inches in girth so I do believe I made some minor gains in length.

From going back through my notes, and writing this post, on reflection, it’s not really surprising that I have only seen gains in length, it’s the only thing I have kept somewhat consistent. I regard the Bathmate now as more of a toy than anything else, something that’s nice to use before sex but is never going to allow me to be consistent enough without a gauge for me to make gains. When I start PE again I plan on buying an air pump from Thickwall so I can take more accurate pressure readings and make my workouts more consistent.

Although, I do not plan on PE’ing until at least next month, I am writing this post now for anyone who feels they can offer some advice in advance. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in what I have done previously. I plan on keeping a progress log here as I feel I have a much better chance of reaching my goals with help from some of the members on this forum to keep me right.

My current line of thought is that I will start conservatively by PE’ing 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) before eventually moving back to a 4 day week cycle (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). I will pump at between 3-5hg for 5 minutes per session, slowing working up to 20 minutes. I will continue adding 1x30 stretch every week until I reach 15 minutes of stretching. After this I may start to add some v-jelqs. I was thinking of starting with 50 jelqs and eventually increasing this again slowly after I’ve worked my way up to 20 minutes pumping at 5hg. Does this seem like a sensible routine going forward based on what I have done before? Would it better to start with a 4 day schedule straight away?

I know I’ve changed my routine too many times and this hasn’t helped. This is why I am a little confused on how it would be best to start PE’ing again.

Thank you for anyone who takes the time to read this and comment.

This is my first post on Thunder’s. I am 24 years old and have been been PE’ing on and off since around the beginning of 2015. During this time I made no noticeable gains. This was essentially because I was overtraining and started using the Bathmate too early, or at all (more on this later). I was also not very consistent with my workouts or my routines.

I took a couple of months of time off to de-condition and started taking things more seriously and becoming more consistent with completing my workouts at the back end of January this year. Initially, I started very light with 4x30 stretches and 10 jelqs. I would add a 1x30 stretch in a different direction every week and increased the number of jelqs by 5 minutes every 3rd workout. I used both an underhand and an overhand grip, mostly overhand though. Furthermore, I also did fowfers but later dropped these as I started becoming too inconsistent with them. My routine was Monday, Tuesday on, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday on, weekend off.

Moreover, I would run the routine in cycles, 6 weeks on and 1 week off to de-condition my penis. I did 2 cycles so a little more than 3 months worth of PE. From looking back through my log my PI indicators were great, lots of night wood, larger flaccid hang and several positive comments from my girlfriend that make me think I was heading in the right direction (she doesn’t know I do PE).

Unfortunately, afterwards, things stated going wrong. In my third cycle, I began adding pumping to my routine (Bathmate) as my main goal is to achieve more girth and improve flaccid hang. I changed from my old routine of 4 days on and 3 days off in a week to 5 days on and 2 days off - Monday to Friday on, weekends off.

I had read online that it was first best to condition the penis by using the Bathmate flaccid and slowly increase to higher erections level. During this time I continued to add 1x30 stretch every week but kept the number of jelqs I had at worked up to at 100. I changed my routine so that manual exercises were only performed on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My thinking at the time was I would use Tuesday and Thursday as active recovery days where I would only use the Bathmate flaccid. In hindsight, I realised I would have been better off just keeping them as complete rest days.

From looking at the notes of the log I made, for the first few weeks I did not seem to be overtraining as I was still getting some decent PI’s. However, in week 3 I stopped getting any night wood and on the Saturday of week 4 I literally couldn’t get hard. This seemed to happen when I increased my time in the Bathmate from 7.5 minutes to 10 minutes. However, it could have been just as likely that I simply used too much pressure, or a combination of both. Note, I still wasn’t even going in fully hard at this point. As such, I cut my cycle short and took two weeks off.

I began my 4th cycle by changing my workout again, this time by removing the active recovery days and only training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with weekends off. Occasionally, I would also use the Bathmate for 10 minutes on Saturdays before seeing my girlfriend. I reduced my number of jelqs to 25 and started using the bathmate with a full erection. I started the duration at 5 minutes and eventually worked up to a maximum of 15 minutes. I continued with adding a 1x30 stretch every workout. At one point, I had never seen my flaccid hang so good before and I was really enjoying having sex with my girlfriend because it definitely felt and looked wider, even when having sex on a rest day. Ultimately though, this didn’t last and I began overtraining again when I increased the Bathmate duration to 15 minutes per session.

I currently plan to take the next 4-6 weeks off from PE and allow my penis to de-condition so I can start again. I measured myself yesterday and I am 6.4 BPEL (6.5 if I push a little harder) and 4.5 inches in girth mid shaft. When I first started PE back in January I measured myself at 6.2 BPEL and 4.5 inches in girth so I do believe I made some minor gains in length.

From going back through my notes, and writing this post, on reflection, it’s not really surprising that I have only seen gains in length, it’s the only thing I have kept somewhat consistent. I regard the Bathmate now as more of a toy than anything else, something that’s nice to use before sex but is never going to allow me to be consistent enough without a gauge for me to make gains. When I start PE again I plan on buying an air pump from Thickwall so I can take more accurate pressure readings and make my workouts more consistent.

Although, I do not plan on PE’ing until at least next month, I am writing this post now for anyone who feels they can offer some advice in advance. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in what I have done previously. I plan on keeping a progress log here as I feel I have a much better chance of reaching my goals with help from some of the members on this forum to keep me right.

My current line of thought is that I will start conservatively by PE’ing 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) before eventually moving back to a 4 day week cycle (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). I will pump at between 3-5hg for 5 minutes per session, slowing working up to 20 minutes. I will continue adding 1x30 stretch every week until I reach 15 minutes of stretching. After this I may start to add some v-jelqs. I was thinking of starting with 50 jelqs and eventually increasing this again slowly after I’ve worked my way up to 20 minutes pumping at 5hg. Does this seem like a sensible routine going forward based on what I have done before? Would it better to start with a 4 day schedule straight away?

I know I’ve changed my routine too many times and this hasn’t helped. This is why I am a little confused on how it would be best to start PE’ing again.

Thank you for anyone who takes the time to read this and comment.

This is my first post on Thunder’s. I am a 24 year old male who has been PE’ing on and off since around the beginning of 2015. During this time I made no noticeable gains. This was essentially because I was overtraining and started using the Bathmate too early, or at all (more on this later). I was also not very consistent with my workouts or my routines.

I took a couple of months of time off to de-condition and started taking things more seriously and becoming more consistent with completing my workouts at the back end of January this year. Initially, I started very light with 4x30 stretches and 10 jelqs. I would add a 1x30 stretch in a different direction every week and increased the number of jelqs by 5 minutes every 3rd workout. I used both an underhand and an overhand grip, mostly overhand though. Furthermore, I also did fowfers but later dropped these as I started becoming too inconsistent with them. My routine was Monday, Tuesday on, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday on, weekend off.

Moreover, I would run the routine in cycles, 6 weeks on and 1 week off to de-condition my penis. I did 2 cycles so a little more than 3 months worth of PE. From looking back through my log my PI indicators were great, lots of night wood, larger flaccid hang and several positive comments from my girlfriend that make me think I was heading in the right direction (she doesn’t know I do PE).

Unfortunately, afterwards, things stated going wrong. In my third cycle, I began adding pumping to my routine (Bathmate) as my main goal is to achieve more girth and improve flaccid hang. I changed from my old routine of 4 days on and 3 days off in a week to 5 days on and 2 days off - Monday to Friday on, weekends off.

I had read online that it was first best to condition the penis by using the Bathmate flaccid and slowly increase to higher erections level. During this time I continued to add 1x30 stretch every week but kept the number of jelqs I had at worked up to at 100. I changed my routine so that manual exercises were only performed on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My thinking at the time was I would use Tuesday and Thursday as active recovery days where I would only use the Bathmate flaccid. In hindsight, I realised I would have been better off just keeping them as complete rest days.

From looking at the notes of the log I made, for the first few weeks I did not seem to be overtraining as I was still getting some decent PI’s. However, in week 3 I stopped getting any night wood and on the Saturday of week 4 I literally couldn’t get hard. This seemed to happen when I increased my time in the Bathmate from 7.5 minutes to 10 minutes. However, it could have been just as likely that I simply used too much pressure, or a combination of both. Note, I still wasn’t even going in fully hard at this point. As such, I cut my cycle short and took two weeks off.

I began my 4th cycle by changing my workout again, this time by removing the active recovery days and only training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with weekends off. Occasionally, I would also use the Bathmate for 10 minutes on Saturdays before seeing my girlfriend. I reduced my number of jelqs to 25 and started using the bathmate with a full erection. I started the duration at 5 minutes and eventually worked up to a maximum of 15 minutes. I continued with adding a 1x30 stretch every workout. At one point, I had never seen my flaccid hang so good before and I was really enjoying having sex with my girlfriend because it definitely felt and looked wider, even when having sex on a rest day. Ultimately though, this didn’t last and I began overtraining again when I increased the Bathmate duration to 15 minutes per session.

I currently plan to take the next 4-6 weeks off from PE and allow my penis to de-condition so I can start again. I measured myself yesterday and I am 6.4 BPEL (6.5 if I push a little harder) and 4.5 inches in girth mid shaft. When I first started PE back in January I measured myself at 6.2 BPEL and 4.5 inches in girth so I do believe I made some minor gains in length.

From going back through my notes, and writing this post, on reflection, it’s not really surprising that I have only seen gains in length, it’s the only thing I have kept somewhat consistent. I regard the Bathmate now as more of a toy than anything else, something that’s nice to use before sex but is never going to allow me to be consistent enough without a gauge for me to make gains. When I start PE again I plan on buying an air pump from Thickwall so I can take more accurate pressure readings and make my workouts more consistent.

Although, I do not plan on PE’ing until at least next month, I am writing this post now for anyone who feels they can offer some advice in advance. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in what I have done previously. I plan on keeping a progress log here as I feel I have a much better chance of reaching my goals with help from some of the members on this forum to keep me right.

My current line of thought is that I will start conservatively by PE’ing 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) before eventually moving back to a 4 day week cycle (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). I will pump at between 3-5hg for 5 minutes per session, slowing working up to 20 minutes. I will continue adding 1x30 stretch every week until I reach 15 minutes of stretching. After this I may start to add some v-jelqs. I was thinking of starting with 50 jelqs and eventually increasing this again slowly after I’ve worked my way up to 20 minutes pumping at 5hg. Does this seem like a sensible routine going forward based on what I have done before? Would it better to start with a 4 day schedule straight away?

I know I’ve changed my routine too many times and this hasn’t helped. This is why I am a little confused on how it would be best to start PE’ing again.

Thank you for anyone who takes the time to read this and comment.