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How Long Till I See Extender Gains

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Originally Posted by Buckfever
Keep a log and try to keep good records it’ll come in handy later. There was a study by Levine, it was a small sample but he found that the group that extended at least 3 hours a day showed gains at 3 months. Here’s the study:
Combination of penile traction, intralesional verapamil, and oral therapies for Peyronie’s disease - PubMed

This was a study in which penile traction was added to Verapamil injections for patients with Peyronies. At three months the patients without the traction device lost length. At three months the patients that used the extender for less than 3 hours- on average maintained their length and the patients that extended for 3+ hours on average - showed gains of .6cm.

I would think that if you extended consistently for 4+ hours for 3 months, you should see something.

Here’s a review of the literature on traction devices:
Penile traction therapy for Peyronie’s disease—what’s the evidence? - Usta - Translational Andrology and Urology

Thanks I’ll do so. I haven’t even been at this for a week and I’m already looking for gains lol.

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
I agree with records and logs. It helps to motivate and allows you to look backwards and make good decisions for moving forward.

I personally use excel, I have attached a few screen shots of my workbook and worksheets.

Every minute of every exercise tracked back to June 16. This also allows you to begin to play with forecasting, which I admit is hard to accurately predict, but fun none the less.

I can look at and compare time spent by exercise and average rest time between what I call “measurement lock dates”, which has been interesting.

With all that said, some will look at tracking all of this and say it’s overkill, which I don’t necessarily disagree with. It all depends on what motivates you and how you best approach challenges. I am a data and numbers guy, so that’s how I approach it.

Best wishes

Have your gains been permanent?

Originally Posted by KingKobra
Have your gains been permanent?

I consistently practice PE, so I can’t tell you what happens if I stop for longer than a few months, others can speak to that.

I absolutely have a thicker and longer cock. My flaccid state has been great as well. As of today I should hit 916 hours on the extender, which I feel is the predominate reason for my current 7.25” bone press as well as what I measured my flaccid hang at last night, which was 5.25”. Though I think flaccid is a squirley measurement as it can literally change based on my mood and the weather!

I know my wife notices my flaccid state as I catch her checking me out!

Girth has been a challenge. I made about a .25” girth gain since beginning PE, some of that came before extender and some after extender, but even during extender use I continue to practice jelqing, clamping, and pumping.

There was a seven month period where I had 0 gains and had about 300 some hours on the extender, that sucked. I also tracked some 61 hours in that time just on pumping. I was pumping often and over 5 hg but never more than 10 hg. I was advised by the thunders peeps to back off on the vacuum, but I was addicted to having sex with my wife with the short lived residual thickness from my afternoon pump sessions. I believe both the pumping at too high of a pressure as well as not having increased the intensity (tension) on my extender to be the predominate reason for 0 gains during that time. Maybe better to play it safe and dodge injury, then go recklessly and end up posting in the injuries forum!

My last lock date was a different story. I saw a .25” change in bone press. Two routine changes that stuck out, my pumping decreased to less than 12 hours during that period and I increased the extender bars and tension, and again almost another 300 hours on the extender. Now I’m not concluding that decreasing the pumping was the difference, I think the increase in tension on the extender made the greatest impact. Others might say that I should be ok with pumping as long as I do so at lower vacuum levels, which now I am beginning to have the discipline to maintain. I think my pumping addiction is behind me:-) . Or at least pumping at too high of a vacuum.

My average rest days also increased from around 2.3 days a week to 3.11 days per week. Got some regular decon breaks in there too, which I do not include in my rest calculations.

Long story short, it’s very fluid and from what I can see, consistency with a careful regard for intensity/technique are critical components to this game.

I am a data guy and somewhat cautious in drawing loose conclusions. Even now at almost three years into PE and having tracked every exercise and result since June 16, I do not have data that comes from an applied scientific method that carefully identifies variables and implements methods/routines to test hypotheses. It appears many others are doing that. So there is much to learn from them.

Right now I am thinking of trialing an extensive run that focuses on maintaining good extender tension and going back to basics with a good old fashion consistent jelq routine.

Lol, sorry for the winded response!

Happy tugging!

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
I consistently practice PE, so I can’t tell you what happens if I stop for longer than a few months, others can speak to that.

I absolutely have a thicker and longer cock. My flaccid state has been great as well. As of today I should hit 916 hours on the extender, which I feel is the predominate reason for my current 7.25” bone press as well as what I measured my flaccid hang at last night, which was 5.25”. Though I think flaccid is a squirley measurement as it can literally change based on my mood and the weather!

I know my wife notices my flaccid state as I catch her checking me out!

Girth has been a challenge. I made about a .25” girth gain since beginning PE, some of that came before extender and some after extender, but even during extender use I continue to practice jelqing, clamping, and pumping.

There was a seven month period where I had 0 gains and had about 300 some hours on the extender, that sucked. I also tracked some 61 hours in that time just on pumping. I was pumping often and over 5 hg but never more than 10 hg. I was advised by the thunders peeps to back off on the vacuum, but I was addicted to having sex with my wife with the short lived residual thickness from my afternoon pump sessions. I believe both the pumping at too high of a pressure as well as not having increased the intensity (tension) on my extender to be the predominate reason for 0 gains during that time. Maybe better to play it safe and dodge injury, then go recklessly and end up posting in the injuries forum!

My last lock date was a different story. I saw a .25” change in bone press. Two routine changes that stuck out, my pumping decreased to less than 12 hours during that period and I increased the extender bars and tension, and again almost another 300 hours on the extender. Now I’m not concluding that decreasing the pumping was the difference, I think the increase in tension on the extender made the greatest impact. Others might say that I should be ok with pumping as long as I do so at lower vacuum levels, which now I am beginning to have the discipline to maintain. I think my pumping addiction is behind me:-) . Or at least pumping at too high of a vacuum.

My average rest days also increased from around 2.3 days a week to 3.11 days per week. Got some regular decon breaks in there too, which I do not include in my rest calculations.

Long story short, it’s very fluid and from what I can see, consistency with a careful regard for intensity/technique are critical components to this game.

I am a data guy and somewhat cautious in drawing loose conclusions. Even now at almost three years into PE and having tracked every exercise and result since June 16, I do not have data that comes from an applied scientific method that carefully identifies variables and implements methods/routines to test hypotheses. It appears many others are doing that. So there is much to learn from them.

Right now I am thinking of trialing an extensive run that focuses on maintaining good extender tension and going back to basics with a good old fashion consistent jelq routine.

Lol, sorry for the winded response!

Happy tugging!

How far should I stretch on my extender to see gains? I’ve heard mixed things. The penimaster said to extend 1.5cm past my erect length, but there’s physically no way I can do that without ripping my dick off. Some say you MUST stretch past your erect length to see any gains. The thing with me is my bpsfl isn’t as long as my erect length, close but a bit shorter. So what I’ve been doing is stretching a bit past my bpsfl. Is this enough tension to produce gains? Or should I add another bar and go for above my erect length? Also, my strap isn’t really seeming to cut off circulation but it does put alot of pressure on my shaft. It kinda almost hurts, but I’d say it’s mostly just super uncomfortable. Can that pressure potentially damage my nerves long term? If so I’ll look into getting a vacuum mod. Sorry for all the questions. Thanks man.

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
I agree with records and logs. It helps to motivate and allows you to look backwards and make good decisions for moving forward.

I personally use excel, I have attached a few screen shots of my workbook and worksheets.

Every minute of every exercise tracked back to June 16. This also allows you to begin to play with forecasting, which I admit is hard to accurately predict, but fun none the less.

I can look at and compare time spent by exercise and average rest time between what I call “measurement lock dates”, which has been interesting.

With all that said, some will look at tracking all of this and say it’s overkill, which I don’t necessarily disagree with. It all depends on what motivates you and how you best approach challenges. I am a data and numbers guy, so that’s how I approach it.

Best wishes

Last question. I’m realizing I can’t do this shit with the strap. I’m sure it’ll cause some kind of nerve damage or some shit long term. Can you link me to a vacuum mod or something? Thanks

I have always stretched as far as I could stand and still maintain in the strap for 30-60 minutes, then 10 minute break. I unscrewed base screws until they back out (full extension) then I turn them back in a full turn. Then I increase tension as much as I can. I do that until I am acclimated to that setting. That is just my process and I have been consistent with it.

I have always used the X4 with single strap and a foam pad that came with it, I use the foam pads until they almost disintegrate, like a lucky dirty shirt in sports.

I have no experience with vacuum mod so I can’t make any suggestions. I believe there are others who can help you to that end.

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
I have always stretched as far as I could stand and still maintain in the strap for 30-60 minutes, then 10 minute break. I unscrewed base screws until they back out (full extension) then I turn them back in a full turn. Then I increase tension as much as I can. I do that until I am acclimated to that setting. That is just my process and I have been consistent with it.

I have always used the X4 with single strap and a foam pad that came with it, I use the foam pads until they almost disintegrate, like a lucky dirty shirt in sports.

I have no experience with vacuum mod so I can’t make any suggestions. I believe there are others who can help you to that end.

Also, you are good, I don’t think I have personally ever stretched beyond my current bone press, however I have never payed much attention to that.

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
Also, you are good, I don’t think I have personally ever stretched beyond my current bone press, however I have never payed much attention to that.

Cool. I’ve only been at this for alittle over a week now but I guess its gonna take more trial and error. My main fear is cutting off circulation and putting too much pressure on my nerves which I feel would cause damage long term. I’m gonna continue to look out for any negative physiological indicators while I find the sweet spot for how tight the strap should be. It should be tight enough that it secures the glans without cutting off circulation. So far tho my EQ has maintained. Over the past couple of days I feel like I’ve had a tingling sensation in my glands but I’m kinda certain thats in my head after reading thats a symptom of nerve damage in all these noose extender horror stories. I’m rambling. Thanks again though man.

Originally Posted by KingKobra
Cool. I’ve only been at this for alittle over a week now but I guess its gonna take more trial and error. My main fear is cutting off circulation and putting too much pressure on my nerves which I feel would cause damage long term. I’m gonna continue to look out for any negative physiological indicators while I find the sweet spot for how tight the strap should be. It should be tight enough that it secures the glans without cutting off circulation. So far tho my EQ has maintained. Over the past couple of days I feel like I’ve had a tingling sensation in my glands but I’m kinda certain thats in my head after reading thats a symptom of nerve damage in all these noose extender horror stories. I’m rambling. Thanks again though man.

My head is the only reason I take breaks. My head says, “ I can’t breath” so it’s break time. This has become one of my indicators that it’s time to add to the rods. If I begin to require less strap compression at full extension and tension.

Also, I wear 3-4 hours per day, three to four days a week. So 9 to 16 hours a week.

The extender is a grind, but I am grateful for what it has given me.

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
My head is the only reason I take breaks. My head says, “ I can’t breath” so it’s break time. This has become one of my indicators that it’s time to add to the rods. If I begin to require less strap compression at full extension and tension.

Also, I wear 3-4 hours per session, three to four days a week. So 9 to 16 hours a week.

The extender is a grind, but I am grateful for what it has given me.

Yea this shit definitely is a grind. A lot more mentally taxing then I foresaw. Yea tho, I figured once I require less strap compression I’ve grown enough to add another bar. Rn I’m at 4hrs a week 7days a week 28hrs a week, so I’m going a little hard with this shit. I’ll look into a vac extender, supposedly thats a game changer for some people because it’s more comfortable and doesn’t cut circulation. Thanks tho bro, all you’re advice really helps.

Originally Posted by KingKobra
Yea this shit definitely is a grind. A lot more mentally taxing then I foresaw. Yea tho, I figured once I require less strap compression I’ve grown enough to add another bar. Rn I’m at 4hrs a week 7days a week 28hrs a week, so I’m going a little hard with this shit. I’ll look into a vac extender, supposedly thats a game changer for some people because it’s more comfortable and doesn’t cut circulation. Thanks tho bro, all you’re advice really helps.

I went pretty hard in the beginning too. Eventually I settled into the routine I described.

I logged in close to 800 hours and gained 1/2”, even after made newbie gains from manual stretching.

it definitely works but you need to put in the work and consistency

check out dj8cut log who has gained a lot from extender over the years

Then- 5.7 x 4.7 (bpel x mseg)

Now- 7.1 x 5.1 (beg 5.5) // Goal-> 8 x 5.5+

Extender Log 2017

Hi guys. I did use my «Jes extender» for an average of 4 hours a day, took days off when I felt my penis needed it or for some other reasons. I logged more than 2 thousand hours with it over a period of two years. Usually took a small break every 60-90 minutes and did some jelqing/massage.
One very important thing is that when you mount your penis in the extender, is to get your penis as far forward as possible, so that the strap/noose is pulling downwards behind the head, and not forward «through»the head. Keep the extender short enough so that you can achieve this. When mounted this way, you do not have to tighten the noose to much, and it will be more comfortable. ( and you can stand longer hours)
I did gain 1 and 1/4 inch length and a small gain in girth. I have started up again after several years without PE. I did continue exactly where I left off, regarding how many pieces I’ve added to the extender. I stretch my penis about a half inch longer than my EL. My BPEL is now 18,5cm (7 1/4 inch) and EG 14,5cm ( 5 3/4 inch)

When you feel like it, take a week or two where you just do jelqing, to give your penis some variations. Good luck, and feel free to ask any question.

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