Lobes to reach 7x5.5

Hello everyone,
I’m going to attempt PE and keeping it dialogued as accurately and frequently as I possibly can. I started logging everything on 4/14/20 up until today but have been at the beginner routine since February. So I will write what I wrote in my current log.

Start (4/14) - BPEL: 6.50 NBPEL: 6.25 EG: 4.5 NBPFL: 3.6 FG: 3.5

Current (5/9) - BPEL: 6.75 NBPEL: 6.25 EG:4.5 NBPFL: 4.2 - 4.75 FG: 4 - 4.4 (Possibly fluctuates because I’m a grower?)

All of my measurements taken were in a flaccid state with NBPFL being first and FG being the second measurement (NBPFL x FG), I have yet to log my EL & EG but will take random measurements when I feel I have good EQ.

4/14
Wake up 4.2 x 3.8
5 min warmup with a heating pad, Jelqed 15 min, Edge for 5 min
Warm down with heating pad 5 min
Hour after 3.8 x 3.6
Pump at 5 GH for 3 sets of 5 min (Took about 5 min rest in between sets) 5.25 x 4.3 post-pump hang

4/15
Wake up with weak morning wood 4 x 4.1
10 min heating pad 4.5 x 4.1
Wrap with ACE bandage 2 hours

4/16
No morning wood
Heating pad 30 min 4.3 x 4.2
Heating pad 10 min 4x4

4/17
No wood
Heating pad 10 min 4.1x4
Pump 3 sets of 3 min at 5 GH (Stretched and did light jelqing in between sets for 5 min) Post-pump hang 4.3 x 3.7
Heating pad 10 min 3.9x3.8

4/18
Weak wood
Heating pad 10 min 3.9 x 3.7
Pump 2 sets for 2 min at 5 GH (5 min rest periods) Post-pump 3.9 x 3.8
Heating pad 10 min 3.9 x 3.7

4/19
Weak wood
Heating pad 10 min 4.2 x 3.8
Heating pad 10 min 4.1 x 3.8

4/20
Weak wood 3.7 x 3.6
Heating pad 20 min 5 x 4
Hour later 4.75 x 4
Heating pad 15 min 4.7 x 4.1, Wrapped after heat - 5.6 NBFL

4/21
Weak wood
Heating pad 15 min 4.5 x 4.1
Hour after 4.5 x 4.2
Heating pad 15 min 4.7 x 4.2
Hour later 4.8 x 4.2
Heating pad 15 min 4.5 x 4.1

4/22
No wood
Wake up 4.2 x 4
Heating pad 20 min 4.2 x 4.1
Hour later 4.4 x 4
Hour later 4.75 x 4.2
Heat 15 min 3.9 x 3.8
30 min after 5 x 4.4
Heat 10 min 4.4 x 4.2

4/23
No wood
Heat 20 min 4 x 3.8
2 rounds of 30 sec stretching in all directions with about 50 jelqs 4.8 x 4.1

4/24
No wood
Heat 15 min 4.1 x 3.7
Pump 3 sets of 2 min at 5 GH while massaging and edging between sets (5 min) - Post pump hang 5.25 x 4.5
Hour after 4.5 x 4.1
Heat 10 min 4.25 x 4.1

4/25 - 4/26 - Off

4/27
Weak wood
Edge and Jelq for about 30 min (When I do this, I edge till I’m close to cumming and then begin to jelq at 100% EQ till about 50% EQ and then begin to edge again)
Heat 15 min
Hour later 4.25 x 4

4/28 - Off

4/29
Weak wood
Stretch every direction for 30 sec for 4 sets
Edge and Jelq for 20 min
Heat 15 min
Heat 15 min
Edge and Jelq for 30 min
Heat 15 min
Edge and Jelq for 45 min

4/30
Hard morning wood (About time.)
Heat 15 min
Heat 15 min

5/1
No wood
Edge and Jelq for 30 min - Accidently orgasmed (11am)
Edge and Jelq for 40 min (11pm)

5/2
Weak wood
Edge and Jelq for 15min - Accidently orgasmed (10am)
Heat 10 min
Heat 15 min

5/3 - Off

5/4
Weak wood
Heat 15 min (12pm)
Heat 15 min (4:30pm)
Took hot shower, 30 min after 4.75 x 4.2
Heat 30 min
Edge and Jelq 30 min while sitting on edge of bed (I usually do it lying down) and Jelq for 10 min with 50 - 60% erection while standing while doing 5 second strokes

5/5
Weak wood
Heat 25 min (10am)
Still experiencing hard flaccid 4.2 x 4.2 (9pm)

5/6
Hard wood (9/10 EQ)
Heat 10 min - Hard flaccid after
Random measurement 4.75 x 4.4 (11pm)

5/7
Decent wood (6/10 EQ)
Heat 15 min (9am)

5/8
Hard wood (9/10 EQ)
Heat 30 min (2pm) - Still hard flaccid
Light edge and jelq for 15 min
Heat 10 min - still hard flaccid (10pm)

5/9 (Today)
Weak wood (5/10 EQ)

So my summary for what I have logged thus far is that I have been measuring excessively and I need to chill out with that haha. My results are more veins in flaccid and in an erect state, seems like a have a bigger flaccid than before, and my foreskin looks like it has grown some because I can see it bunch up more towards my head while flaccid. I had a couple of times where I’ve seen my flaccid fully fluffed out and it looked super healthy. I remember seeing this back in mid-febuary which was when my routine was much lighter and I’m slowly going to convert back to doing a lighter routine since I feel my Positive PI’s where more so around that time period based off how my flaccid state was. I believe my routine was a bit much for the actual condition of my tissues and I am now experiencing a hard flaccid which I’m going to take a week off from PE so hopefully I can have my flaccid being in a “fluffed” out state again.

As being a newbie still, I would appreciate any suggestions to make my routine better and for me to experience Positive PI’s and overall growth. Thanks.

Okay back again after about 8 days. I’m still experimenting with how my unit responds to certain things and during this active rest period, I did alot of basic manual exercises.

5/10
Morning wood (9/10) EQ
Random measurement 4.9in (NBPFL) x 4.1in (FG) (3PM)
Random Erections throughout the day between 4 - 8 PM (EQ between 8 - 6/10) - Is this when growth happens or is growth strictly during night/morning wood? Never really understood random erections because I was not aroused, it just simply came about.

5/11
Morning wood (9/10) EQ
Heating pad 10 min

5/12
Morning wood (8/10) EQ
Random Erections around 6PM
Heating pad 10 min
5 Way Stretch (Straight Out, Straight Down, Left, Right, Up) 5 min
Edge and Jelq 30 min

5/13
Morning Wood (3/10) - Maybe went down because I Edged and Jelqed for a bit too long?
5 Way Stretch 7 min (11AM)
Heating pad 30 min (1PM)
Heating pad 5 min then wrapped with ACE bandage from 3PM - 4PM, took it off because my flaccid felt it was getting hard again
Edge and Jelq 30 min - Accidentally orgasmed

5/14
No wood - I knew I did way too much the day before and this was my result. Therefore this day was a must OFF day

5/15
Morning wood (5/10) EQ
5 Way Stretch - 1 set x 20 sec (Meaning I only stretched in each direction once (1 set) and stretched for 20 seconds with the stretches)
5 Way Stretch - 1 set x 20 sec (9PM)

5/16
Morning wood (3/10) EQ - Maybe used to much force while stretching?
5 Way Stretch - 1 set x 20 sec (9AM)
5 Way Stretch - 3 sets x 20 sec (2PM, 4PM, 5PM) - Totaling of 10 sets of stretching
Around 8PM, unit felt contracted. (I think I’m enjoying stretching too much)

5/17
Morning wood (7/10) EQ - Confused how it was that high but I’m going with it lol
5 Way Stretch - 4 sets x 20 sec (11AM)

Summary - Looks like my EQ was good from the beginning since I left my unit alone for the most part and once I started doing the stretching, edging and jelqing, I started losing my morning wood. I think the edging and jelqing cause more pressure on my tissues, therefore, making them contract easily maybe because my tissues aren’t healed fully yet? I have been noticing a softer flaccid than before but still feel the “cord-like” feeling in it from time to time. Is this the tunica or the septum? The stretching I’m doing feels really good and after I’m done, my unit doesn’t contract and is definitely hanging in a thicker and longer state. So I’m going to try to avoid jelqing and edging and continue stretching until my EQ is higher and hopefully have my “fluffed” out flaccid return.

If anyone has any suggestions for me, please don’t hesitate to reply. I’m still a newbie and trying to make my routine the most efficient I can in order to obtain growth. I would love to see growth and be able to share it with this community and hope that others can obtain gains also.

- Lobes

Keep up the good work. I’m also mainly doing just jelqing and manual stretching.

Thanks Rafa, I’m still figuring out a good routine to stick with

5/18
Morning wood 8/10 EQ
5 way stretch 1 set x 20 sec (1030am)
5ws 1x20sec (3pm)
5ws 1x20-30sec (415pm)

5/19
Morning wood 5/10 EQ
5ws 2x20-25sec (12pm)
Masturbated (11pm)

5/20
Morning wood 7/10 EQ
Masturbated (9am) - Noticed I had an hourglass shape flaccid all day
Heating pad 10 min (630pm)

5/21
Morning wood 4/10 EQ
Been awhile since I had sex (2 weeks) so I did it about 5 times within 7 hours lol

5/22
Morning wood 6/10 EQ
Had sex 3 times this day

5/23
Morning wood 2/10 EQ
Had sex 3 times this day

5/24
Morning wood 7/10 EQ
Had sex 3 times this day

5/25
Morning wood 5/10 EQ
Had sex only once but had to stop due to my dick feeling fatigued (Probably because of how much sex I’ve been having?)

5/26
No morning wood
5ws 3x20sec (12pm)
5ws 3x20sec (415pm)
Had sex twice this day after PEing

5/27
Morning wood 4/10 EQ
5ws 3x20sec (4pm)
Had sex once this day after PEing

5/28
No morning wood
5ws 2x20sec (10am)
Heating pad for 10 min and after 5ws 2x20sec (12pm)
Edge & Jelq 20 min and jelqing between 100% slowing subsiding to 50% hardness (1pm)
Heating pad 25 min (230pm)

5/29
Morning wood 2/10 EQ (Thinking I edged and jelqed for too long and maybe too much pressure while jelqing at higher hardness %)
Heading pad 10 min and after 5ws 1x20sec (12pm)
First time applying DMSO + Nascent Iodine solution (DMSO + Iodine Experimental Treatment for Deflated Glans and Firm Flaccid) - I’ve been reading this thread because of my hard flaccid and sometimes I notice I have an hourglass shape flaccid from time to time. I HATE the look of this and I have no idea how it came about. I’ve seen this for a few years now and never knew what the cause of it was. Maybe I could have a mild case of Peyronies? But within this thread it showed promising signs that DMSO + Iodine can dissolve/breakup scar tissue which is what could possibly be causing my hourglass shape flaccid. It clearing looks like a ring in the middle of my shaft and goes basically all the way around my unit. My unit looks darker than usual when I notice this and my skin looks bunched up on my shaft, sort of like it’s retracting but not towards the base but towards the middle of my shaft. I applied DMSO all over my shaft with a Q tip and applied the iodine with the dropper it came with. I just used enough to cover my shaft with both solutions so I’m thinking it had to be about 8 drops of DMSO and 4 of the iodine. Since I was experimenting, I applied this solution at 3pm, 4pm, and 430pm to see what kind of reaction I’ll get. Some people claimed that they got a stinging feeling so I was curious to see how much my unit could handle. Later that day I went to take a shower and I felt the skin on my unit to feel very dried out but not necessarily shriveled, just felt dry and unplump. So I no longer will be applying it that much..
I also had sex after my shower that day but my EQ felt terrible

5/30
Morning wood 7/10 EQ (I have no idea how it was that high)
5ws 3x20 sec (11am)
5ws 1x20 sec (1215pm)
5ws 1x20 sec (1pm)
5ws 1x20 sec (4pm)
Had sex after PEing but my EQ still felt low

5/31
No morning wood but had morning sex (EQ felt higher but still not "normal")
Applied DMSO + Iodine (1130am)

6/1
Morning wood 2/10 EQ
Edge with squeezes at the base with very light jelqing at 100% - 80% hardness for 25 min (1230pm)

Summary -
Obviously still experimenting to find an efficient routine. Hoping that the DMSO + Iodine will aid me with my hourglass shape flaccid and hard flaccid by breaking up any scar tissue I could possibly have. I’m going to attempt to apply it daily since that’s what others have done and maybe incorporate pumping after applying it but keep the pressure between 3 - 4 HG. I have been noticing plump flaccid states too but I would prefer to see that most of the time instead of seeing the hourglass shape too.. I have some good days and some bad but it’d be nice to have more of the good days (plump flaccid + high EQ). And overall, still waiting for that growth.. Haven’t measured in awhile since I’m kind of scared of what I’ll see lol. Maybe by the end of this month I’ll check

- Lobes

Still on this journey and things are looking pretty good. I still haven’t measured EL or EG but I have been able to hit my girls A-Spot more frequently and I feel she’s tighter and grips me more than usual. So it’s either she’s getting smaller or I’m getting bigger. Praying it’s the latter lol. I may measure at the end of this month because I feel like I should see where I’m statistically at. Anyways continuing with my daily logs..

6/2
Morning Wood (6/10) EQ
Applied DMSO + Nascent Iodine (9am)
5 Way Stretch - 1 set x 20 second stretch (1120am) - After this stretch, I noticed my unit was retracting and it started to form the hourglass shape again
5ws 2x20sec (345pm)
Masturbated (445pm)

6/3
Morning Wood (6/10) EQ
Heating Pad with Foreskin Stretching 10 minutes (1130am)
After heating, I applied DMSO + Iodine, waited about 5min for it to dry and then applied Vitamin E and started Pumping 3 sets x 4min @ 4-7 hg with Jelqing in between sets at 30-50% erection
After pumping NBPFL - 4x4.2
Had sex later that evening

6/4
Morning Wood (6/10) EQ + Masturbated when I woke up
Heating pad with Foreskin stretching 10min + 5ws 2x20sec (1pm)
After stretching applied DMSO + Iodine + Vit E, then went into pump for 2x5min @ 4-7 hg with Jelqing at 40-60% erection in between sets

6/5
Morning Wood (9/10) EQ
Heating Pad with Foreskin Stretch + 5ws 1x20sec 10min total (11am)
After stretching applied D + I + Vit E, went into Pump for 2x5min @ 6-8 hg with Jelqing between sets at 50-60% erection
Had sex 3x after PEing

6/6
Morning Wood (5/10) EQ
5ws 1x20sec (1pm)
5ws 4x20sec (2pm)
5ws 3x20sec (3pm)
5ws 1x20sec (430pm)
Had sex 2x after PEing

6/7
Morning Wood (4/10) EQ
Heating Pad 10min (4pm) - Random Measurement after NBPFL 4.5x4.2
Had sex once after PEing

6/8
Morning Woof (7/10) EQ
5ws 4x20sec (1230pm)
ACE Wrap (ADS) from 3pm - 7pm
Had sex once after PEing but my EQ was low. I felt like this was due to me having my ADS on for a bit too long so I made a note to not go up to 4 hours and maybe cut it to around 2 hours

6/9
Morning Wood (9/10) EQ
5ws 2x20-25sec (12pm)
ADS (1230pm - 115pm)
5ws 1x20sec (210pm)
Edge and Jelq - I basically Jelqed till I was about 90% hard and then would Edge and manual clamp with my hand behind the balls till I was really engorged (100% hard) and then start to Jelq again till I got back down to 50% hardness - I did this while using a space heater and I found that everything was more pleasurable along with better engorgement - I did this for about 30min at 3pm
Had sex once after PEing

6/10
Morning Wood (9/10) EQ
Heating Pad with Foreskin Stretch - 20min
After heat, applied D + I + Vit E and Pumped 3x5min @ 5-8 hg with a heating pad around my tube along with Jelqing between sets - 40min
Heating Pad after pumping 5min (1030am)
Masturbated (6pm)
Had sex once after PEing but had bad EQ (8pm) - I think masturbating is what caused this but also could be what my PE routine was this day

6/11
Morning Wood (6/10) EQ
5ws 2x20sec (12pm)
ADS (1210pm - 210pm)
Space Heater + Jelq @ 20-80% hardness 10min (320pm)
Had sex twice after PEing

6/12
Morning Wood (6/10) EQ + Morning sex
Heating Pad with Foreskin Stretch (1045am)
Applied D + I + Vit E with heating pad for 10min (1055am)
After heat, Pump 2x3min with less than 5 hg + Clamping BTB with Edging between pumping sets - 45min
Heating pad 5min (1145)
Had sex twice after PEing

6/13
Morning Wood (8/10) EQ
5ws 2x20sec (1040am)
5ws 2x20sec (225pm)
5ws 1x20sec (410pm)
5ws 3x20sec (450pm)
Heating Pad 10min (610pm)

6/14
Morning Wood (9/10) EQ
Had sex twice this day

6/15
Morning Wood (9/10) EQ
Random Measurement NBPFL - 4.75x4.3
Jelq with Space Heater @ 30-90% hardness 15min (250pm)

6/16
Morning Wood (8/10) EQ
Jelq with Space Heater @ 20-80% hardness 10min (1pm)
Jelq with Space Heater @ 50-80% hardness 10min (130pm) - Noticed after this my flaccid was fatter than usual and lasted about 45min. Almost looked like it went under Super Relaxation Response (SRR)
Had sex once after PEing

6/17
Morning Wood (7/10) EQ + Morning Sex

Conclusion -
So with my hourglass flaccid, I still notice it from time to time but I feel like it’s getting better and doesn’t look as contracted but I can still see a slight indent on the left side of my unit and I still see the darker shade of the “ring” around my unit. However, My EQ is pretty damn good right now. Morning wood is pretty much always there which is very exciting and I’m hoping morning wood translates to recovery and overall allowing my unit to grow in flaccid and erect states. Like I said, I haven’t measured yet and only take those random flaccid measurements but during sex, I feel like I have made some growth since it’s easier to hit the end of her and she definitely grips me more. Also as you saw I’m still applying DMSO and Iodine and adding Vitamin E due to me wanting to dissolve any sort of scar tissue that’s in my unit with could be causing my hourglass shape flaccid.

If anyone has any questions, I’m fully open to answer whatever it may be. Also if anyone can pitch in and give some advice for the hourglass shape flaccid, it would be much appreciated.

- Lobes

Okay so continuing with this journey.. I still haven’t measured EL or EG but instead estimating what it could be. I’m not measuring quite yet honestly because I’m scared of what I’ll see. My PEing has been going pretty good as for seeing expansion and looking for positive PI’s all throughout so I don’t want to measure and then get discouraged because of not seeing any gains on the ruler. So how I’m measuring right now is within the tube (EL) and where my fingers touch when holding my unit typically while jelqing or having sex. My EL within the tube hits about 6.9 in and I have no idea what my EG is but I have a feeling it’s between 4.6-4.7. I could have possible gains but I think I’m still gonna wait awhile to measure with the actual ruler. Only doing this to keep myself in a positive mindset with this. Here’s my log for the last month..

6/17
Morning wood (7/10) + Morning sex
Random measurement (NBPFL) 5in x (FG) 4.4in
Heating pad with foreskin stretch 10min (1050am) + Apply DMSO, Iodine & Vitamin E with heating pad 5min + Pump 2 sets x 5min @ 4-5 hg with Jelqing in between sets @ 60-90% erection all with Space heater - 30min, Post pump - (NBPFL) 5.4 x (FG) 4.6
Had sex 3x after PEing

6/18
Morning wood (9/10)
Heating pad with foreskin stretch (1035am) + Apply D&I&VitE with heating pad (1050am) + Pump 2x5min @ 5 hg with Jelqing in between sets all with Space heater, Post Pump (NBPFL) 5.7 x (FG) 4.7
Random erections around 2-4pm
Had sex twice after PEing

6/19
Morning wood (8/10)
Heating pad (1115am) + Apply D&I&VitE + heating pad (1130am) + Pump 2x5min @ 5hg with Jelqing in between sets all with Space Heater, Post Pump (NBPFL) 5.6 x (FG) 4.75
Had sex once after PEing

6/20
Moring Wood (4/10) + Morning sex
5 way stretch 2x20sec (1150am)
5ws 1x20sec (2pm)
5ws 1x20sec (315pm)
Heating pad with foreskin stretch 10min (620pm)

6/21
Morning wood (2/10)
Heating pad 10min (925am)
Had sex once after PEing

6/22
Morning wood (7/10)
Jelq with Space heater @ 20-80% erection 15min (235pm)
Jelq with Space heater @ 30-80% erection 10min (640pm)
Had sex twice after PEing

6/23
Nocturnal wood (9/10) + Morning wood (7/10) - This has been my first time in a long time since I’ve been woken up by nocturnal wood
ADS (1245-145pm)
Jelq with Space heater @ 20-60% erection 10min (150pm)
Jelq with Space heater @ 30-60% erection 10min (330pm)
Jelq with Space heater @ 20-80% erection 10min (4pm)
Jelq with Space heater @ 30-80% erection 20min (420pm)
Had sex once after PEing

6/24
Morning wood (7/10)
Had sex twice this day

6/25
Morning wood (4/10)
Heating pad (955am) + Apply D&I&VitE + heating pad (1010) + Pump 3x5min @ 5-7 hg with Space heater and Jelqing in between sets, Post pump - 5.7 x 4.75
Had the donut effect but was gone after a few hours
Edged 30min (130am)

6/26
Morning wood (8/10) + Edge 20min (8am)
Heating pad 5min (1130am) + Pump with Space heater 2x10min @ 5hg with Jelqing in between sets, Post pump - 5.75 x 4.8
Had sex 3x after PEing

6/27
Nocturnal wood (8/10) + Morning wood (6/10)
Heating pad (855am) + Pump with Space heater 2x10min @ 5 hg with jelqing in between sets, Post pump - 5 x 4.6
Had sex twice after PEing

6/28
Nocturnal wood (8/10) + Morning wood (8/10) + Morning sex
Had sex once again later this day

6/29
Morning wood (9/10)
Heating pad 10min (810am) + Pump with Space heater 2x10min @ 5 hg with Jelqing in between sets, Post pump - 5.5 x 4.75
Heating pad 10min (1015pm)

6/30
Morning wood (8/10)
Heating pad 10min (940am) + Pump with Space heater 2x10min @ 4.5 hg with jelqing in between sets, Post pump - 5.3 x 4.75
Jelq with Space heater @ 40-90% erection 10min (1240pm)
Jelq with Space heater @ 40-90% erection 20min (425pm)
Heating pad 5min (745) + Apply D&I&VitE + heating pad 5min + Pump with Space heater 1x10min & 1x15min @ 3-4 hg (First time experiencing precum within the tube), Post pump - 5.25 x 4.75 (Also noticed I had no edema rather that having very little under glans)

7/1
Morning wood (8/10)
Heating pad 5min (845am) + Apply D&I&VitE + heating pad 5min (855am) + Pump with Space heater 3x10min @ 3-4 hg (Had precum again) with jelqing between sets, Post pump - 5.3 x 4.6
Heating pad 10min (9pm)

7/2
Morning wood (7/10)
Heating pad 5min (1125am) + Apply D&I&VitE + heating pad 10min (1140am) + Pump with Space heater 3x10min @ 3.5-2 hg (had precum again) with jelqing in between sets + Additional jelqing 5min after pumping, Post pump - 5.4 x 4.75
Noticed later this day that my flaccid had tiny purple dots on the head and my shaft was showing discoloration.. Thinking I need some rest now
Heating pad 10min (825pm)
Edge (1am)

7/3
Morning wood (7/10)
Noticed my flaccid is back to normal expect my veins aren’t as prominent as usual

Conclusion -
I have been pumping ALOT more than usual simply because it’s my favorite exercise. You see your unit expand right before your eyes and the heat I use along with it is essential IMO. I’ve basically been filling up my tube girth wise so I bought a new pump (1.75x8 tube) since I basically pack my 1.5x8 tube from base to my head. So I’m guessing that’s pretty good progress? Also I decreased my pressure in the tube because I’ve been reading Vacuum Pumping 101 and most of the vets are saying lower pressure and higher duration in the tube is better for obtaining gains and less of an injury to happen. I noticed that when I use pressures from 5 - 8, my unit expands longer (length) and I can hit up to 7in. It’s not uncomfortable for me but when using lower pressures, it feels like it expands slightly better but I must stay in the tube longer for that better expansion. On top of that, the lower pressures allowed me to precum, I’ve never had that happen before at higher pressures. I also get way less edema as lower levels. Also, I’m note sure if I should move up to my 1.5 tube but I feel that I should. When I’m done my sets and decrease the pressure completely, my unit is so thick that I basically get stuck in the tube and I have to slowly slide/pull it off. I love seeing and watching it come out the tube that thick but I’m also focusing on length. I heard that the wider the tube, the better girth you’ll obtain and the smaller and longer the tube, the better chance for length gains. If anyone has any thoughts on this, I would love to hear it.

My good man, you get a lot of sex! Unless you’re talking about fapping? Yes, intelligent pumping is one of the best things you can do; it took me years to realize this. I don’t enjoy my larger diameter tube as much as I do my smaller one, to answer your question. I like the control of the smaller one.

Haha yes I do get a lot of sex from my lady, we both enjoy each other and I have a feel PEing has driven up my sex drive. If I fap, I usually log it under masturbate, which I rarely do since I’m in a relationship. But yea, I’m trying my best to intelligently pump and recognize what pressures and times my unit responds to best.

What does your pumping routine involve? Have you experienced anymore length gains due to the smaller diameter pump? Thanks for the response.

- Lobes