New Gainer hopefully

Hi all,

New here but not really new to PE now. Been at this for nearly a year but am yet to see a single gain.

6 months back I introduced a stretching device and pump but recently have ditched these and gone back to basic manual stretching.

If anyone has any advice on getting my first gains in all ears as starting to loose faith

Another couple of months past and been real consistent but no gains :(

Starting to think not everyone can gain

What is your routine?

I started PE more than 10 years ago and you know how many more years it took me see a decent improvement in size? About 4 years.

Why? I was 20 years old with a shifty lifestyle not caring about myself at all and having the poorest PE technique ever.

Be patient and listen to your body, you might not see insane growth like some people here but PE benefits are forever.

It took two years before I saw any real, repeatable gains. But I saw benefits in EQ quickly.

Must admit I see EQ improvement but that is about it

Routine is:
Heat
10 around the worlds in each direction
10 left to rights and vice versa
Then 3 30 sec stretches in each direction, down, up, left right
Then 3 30 sec straight out

Ill then stretch in a device for 6 hours 2 days a week

Maybe it’s time to try hanging or high tension/short duration extending since manuals and long duration extension isn’t doing the trick. I prefer vacuum hanging, but compression hangers are also a viable option. Some guys recreate hanging tension with extenders, but depending on your target tension this can be challenging because of the pressure against the pelvis from the extender.

Thanks for the advice, ill try and stay positive and give it a go