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I have lost everything after PE with LG hanger

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Originally Posted by LGHanger
Dear sir,
To the best of my knowledge there is no FDA approved Penis Enlargement device…………

Just an FYI but Andromedical reports that their device is FDA approved as Class II medical device. Best I can tell Class II means there is moderate risk with its use and they must comply with certain reporting requirements.

They are also showing that there have been multiple clinical studies supporting the effectiveness of extenders. I am attaching a screen shot of their webpage with the pertinent section.

And for full transparency I have no affiliation with this group in any way. I do however have over 500 hrs with an X4 Labs extender.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by Load
Yes, I saw this.
Sponsored by Andropenis…with 21 men only, 10 days ago.. Great study.very scientific.that`s why nowadays if you go to a (really) serious doctor and say “Dr. I’d like to increase my penis size”, he immediately answer “oh, sure, let`s go, use an extender, it`s very effective and safe.”

I get it. You’ve been injured and you want to share your situation with others so they can prevent the same happening to them. And you’re angered that your information is not being received and actioned with the level of serious attention you feel it deserves.

Any rational person hears your story and instantly feels sorrow for you, wishes you a quick recovery and also empathises with you by imagining themselves in your position and understands how tragic this type injury would be to their life.

And a rational person analyzes the injury specifics and incorporates it into their larger knowledge base which includes information from many others on their PE routines and results, both positive and negative, then make their own decision to continue unchanged, or modify their routine or to stop altogether.

Your information has been read, absorbed and incorporated into their go forward actions. They, as always, are responsible for their actions and the results of those actions.

I personally have been involved in PE for about 3 years, primarily pumping, and occasionally with an extender where I have over 500 hrs use in and X4. I’ve dabbled with hanging, regularly hand stretch, and have recently included clamping twice weekly. I havent had any major issues. I have overtrained and mydick turtled up and didnt want to participated further. I stopped my activities for a couple days and then returned, but at a lesser level.

I look at your injury from hanging at 2.5lbs and I think that a bad hand job generates more than that, or a bad bj, too. I’m not trying to minimize your situation or anger you further (yet I know this will) I think your injury is a fluke and the likelyhood of this happening to me is extremely minor. My decision, my responsiblity for the outcome, good or bad.

This conversation/debate does remind me a story from the first days of electric power when the world was trying to decide whether AC or DC power would be best.

Edward Tesla promoted AC power. Thomas Edison promoted DC as the safest and best source of electric energy. He was incensed that anyone would even consider using AC power as it was, in his view, extremely dangerous. He was so angry he set up a meeting with reporters and decision makers where he was going to prove the danger. He did so be bringing out an elephant which he then electrocuted with AC. Instead of supporting his position, the press and dignitaries where so angry with Edison that he lost any credibility in the discussion.

And so today the world is powered with AC current. I will not post further on this topic as at this point we are just talking past one another, and I am sorry for that.

Again, best wishes for a speedy and successful recovery. Please do post updates from time to time, negative or hopefully, positive, so we know how a fellow PEer (or former PEer) is doing, and can incorporate that information into our decision processes.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Claims to enlarge penis

Originally Posted by 32quarters
Just an FYI but Andromedical reports that their device is FDA approved as Class II medical device. Best I can tell Class II means there is moderate risk with its use and they must comply with certain reporting requirements.

They are also showing that there have been multiple clinical studies supporting the effectiveness of extenders. I am attaching a screen shot of their webpage with the pertinent section.

And for full transparency I have no affiliation with this group in any way. I do however have over 500 hrs with an X4 Labs extender.

Thanks for passing on that information!

What I noticed about the sources cited is that they basically say the extender device can help with MEDICAL issues such as “Andropenis” and “Curvature improvements”. The only one that proclaims that actual penile length can be achieved is the European Association of Urology, which is non-profit organization and really can’t be compared to the FDA, along with the rules and regulations that govern product and device manufacturers. A good example of that is all the bogus weight loss claims made by supplement manufacturers and this includes male enhancement products such as Enzyte.

That was the point I was attempting to make with regard to the gentleman’s (AKA - LOAD) dubious claims that “I have lost everything after PE with the LG Hanger”. He was attempting to enlarge his penis and then said our device wasn’t FDA approved for penis enlargement…. DUH, we’ve never made such a claim to have FDA approval.

I have now given him three opportunities to contact us with his full name and order number, which he has not done. Since we keep detailed records of every purchase made and he hasn’t supplied us with his information, I am very doubtful he ever made a system purchase of a LG Hanger. The guy is a fraud!

You just may have a point.

I didn’t` want to argue and I will not.

Especially with an sponsor and a device supplier, that has no medical/scientific data to support his statements of “safety”, except to mention youtube videos and that holds a weight with his tongue (!).
Actually, I don`t have to prove anything, as well to inform my name, phone, etc, To require this as a condition to “approve” as a non-fraud is ridiculous, especially with an aggressive and authoritarian behavior (“I gave him three opts gave us his full name and phone number.”). Who the hell does he think he is?
You know what? I am not obligated to do it, and I will not do it also because I don`t trust him.
And additionally, I don’t even know why a device supplier is allowed to post here. He is not interested in helping anyone, but only in business, 100% profit oriented.

Unfortunately, there will be more guys. You are ruining lives.
But there is a God, and you will who He is.

I am leaving this sad and fanatic environment.

Today I had to tell to my little girl that we are divorcing. She is angry and crying.

I have more to do. Bye.

Exposing yourself

Originally Posted by Load
I didn’t` want to argue and I will not.

Especially with an sponsor and a device supplier, that has no medical/scientific data to support his statements of “safety”, except to mention youtube videos and that holds a weight with his tongue (!).
Actually, I don`t have to prove anything, as well to inform my name, phone, etc, To require this as a condition to “approve” as a non-fraud is ridiculous, especially with an aggressive and authoritarian behavior (“I gave him three opts gave us his full name and phone number.”). Who the hell does he think he is?
You know what? I am not obligated to do it, and I will not do it also because I don`t trust him.
And additionally, I don’t even know why a device supplier is allowed to post here. He is not interested in helping anyone, but only in business, 100% profit oriented.

Unfortunately, there will be more guys. You are ruining lives.
But there is a God, and you will who He is.

I am leaving this sad and fanatic environment.

Today I had to tell to my little girl that we are divorcing. She is angry and crying.

I have more to do. Bye.

I see a turd in the pool….

Originally Posted by 32quarters
I get it. You’ve been injured and you want to share your situation with others so they can prevent the same happening to them. And you’re angered that your information is not being received and actioned with the level of serious attention you feel it deserves.

Any rational person hears your story and instantly feels sorrow for you, wishes you a quick recovery and also empathises with you by imagining themselves in your position and understands how tragic this type injury would be to their life.

And a rational person analyzes the injury specifics and incorporates it into their larger knowledge base which includes information from many others on their PE routines and results, both positive and negative, then make their own decision to continue unchanged, or modify their routine or to stop altogether.

Your information has been read, absorbed and incorporated into their go forward actions. They, as always, are responsible for their actions and the results of those actions.
I personally have been involved in PE for about 3 years, primarily pumping, and occasionally with an extender where I have over 500 hrs use in and X4. I’ve dabbled with hanging, regularly hand stretch, and have recently included clamping twice weekly. I havent had any major issues. I have overtrained and mydick turtled up and didnt want to participated further. I stopped my activities for a couple days and then returned, but at a lesser level.

I look at your injury from hanging at 2.5lbs and I think that a bad hand job generates more than that, or a bad bj, too. I’m not trying to minimize your situation or anger you further (yet I know this will) I think your injury is a fluke and the likelyhood of this happening to me is extremely minor. My decision, my responsiblity for the outcome, good or bad.

This conversation/debate does remind me a story from the first days of electric power when the world was trying to decide whether AC or DC power would be best.

Edward Tesla promoted AC power. Thomas Edison promoted DC as the safest and best source of electric energy. He was incensed that anyone would even consider using AC power as it was, in his view, extremely dangerous. He was so angry he set up a meeting with reporters and decision makers where he was going to prove the danger. He did so be bringing out an elephant which he then electrocuted with AC. Instead of supporting his position, the press and dignitaries where so angry with Edison that he lost any credibility in the discussion.

And so today the world is powered with AC current. I will not post further on this topic as at this point we are just talking past one another, and I am sorry for that.

Again, best wishes for a speedy and successful recovery. Please do post updates from time to time, negative or hopefully, positive, so we know how a fellow PEer (or former PEer) is doing, and can incorporate that information into our decision processes.

Nicola Tesla

Originally Posted by whacky76
Nicola Tesla

Oops


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Surprisingly both the guys who claimed injury just vanished. Too much hesitance to post results after claiming he done it. Doesn’t even wanna share docs name.

What would motivate any guy to engage in this :-( .

Were they banned by mods?
I myself hit HF symptoms when I edged for 2 hours with fleshlight this week. Waiting to recover to order LG.

Originally Posted by Load
I am a married man, 32 years old (one daughter), good shape, no addictions.
I had a normal penis, 6in, but seduced by the stupid idea of having a bigger dick, I started to follow this community 2 years ago, reading about alternatives, orientations, etc, but never logged.
Recently I have read this topic, and considered that I should say something.

My story with PE is:
- 3 months of basic routine (JP90), with very light jelq and stretches.
- Following JP90, hanging with LG: 2 months 1 ¼ lb, 3 months 2 ½ lbs, 1 session a day, 30min, with 15min warm-up. 2 days off a week, usually weekends

No “fatigue”, no warning, and suddenly…Hard Flaccid, and all that shit: extreme turtling (all the time), rubbery feeling, soft glans, cold penis, severe ED, much less sensitivity and increasing pelvic floor tension and pain.

I have tried pelvic therapy and pain has reduced, but muscle tightness is still there, mainly in left side of bulbocavernosus, as well as ED. And I almost don’t feel my penis!
Recently I traveled to do an electroneuromyography with an expert in NY, and the exam show nerve damage, mainly in dorsal nerve of the penis, due to stretching.

I try to avoid sinking into a penis obsession, but I no longer have sex since the injury.

This is only my testimony about my experience with this stupid practice and its stupid methods and devices.

I will stop my post here and not argue.

Most guys and “mods” just ask details trying to imply that cases like me – much more common than here assumed, we did something “wrong” in our routine (what?), or that we have mental issues, or that we are just “trolls” (I don’t even know what that means).
And in the end, that PE is generally safe, followed by some nonsense comparison like “well, you could also die if you cross the street”, …and the final verdict that we are just “unlucky” guys.

Ok…

What I know is that outside is snowing, I am now impotent, and my marriage is over. We are almost divorcing and I don’t know what to do of my life.

Me too. Another “unlucky” guy.

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