I have lost everything after PE with LG hanger

Guy, I don’t know why are threating me, because I am not offending anyone in here, and just trying to be technical. But I was offended, people calling some of my posts of “bullshit”, etc.

I came in here to look for possible help (although not probable, considering my issues), but yes, also to alert other people about the REAL risks of PE, what in my opinion is completely minimized/underated by most guys.

I don’t know why this irritates so much some guys here, especially mods. It looks that PE is a God, that should be advocated.
Well, I thought this was (or should be) a democratic and respectful environment, and that difference of opinions would help eveeybody.

But if you want ban me, what I can say?

Maybe try a different approach. You come off quite arrogant and make claims no one, not even you can back up. It’s like you just want to argue. Why not come on here, say what happened, and what do you all will think will help me as opposed to saying extender or PE is bad. You’re not going to change anyone’s mind and you don’t seem to really be asking for help or guidance.

You’re being banned for the reason I stated, signing up again after being banned before.

The situation OP has described fits perfectly in the realms of any other form of physical training. There are at least ten examples in my close circle seasoned trainers tearing their muscles or ligaments while warm ups. With career ending consequences. There is no reason it to be anything other with PE. Things happen sometimes.

All this is a waste of time, banned before for trolling.

Thunder’s place is a serious page for serious people.

Now I understand why this member did not want to be helped.

I am a married man, 32 years old (one daughter), good shape, no addictions.
I had a normal penis, 6in, but seduced by the stupid idea of having a bigger dick, I started to follow this community 2 years ago, reading about alternatives, orientations, etc, but never logged.
Recently I have read this topic, and considered that I should say something.

My story with PE is:
- 3 months of basic routine (JP90), with very light jelq and stretches.
- Following JP90, hanging with LG: 2 months 1 ¼ lb, 3 months 2 ½ lbs, 1 session a day, 30min, with 15min warm-up. 2 days off a week, usually weekends

No “fatigue”, no warning, and suddenly…Hard Flaccid, and all that shit: extreme turtling (all the time), rubbery feeling, soft glans, cold penis, severe ED, much less sensitivity and increasing pelvic floor tension and pain.

I have tried pelvic therapy and pain has reduced, but muscle tightness is still there, mainly in left side of bulbocavernosus, as well as ED. And I almost don’t feel my penis!
Recently I traveled to do an electroneuromyography with an expert in NY, and the exam show nerve damage, mainly in dorsal nerve of the penis, due to stretching.

I try to avoid sinking into a penis obsession, but I no longer have sex since the injury.

This is only my testimony about my experience with this stupid practice and its stupid methods and devices.

I will stop my post here and not argue.

Most guys and “mods” just ask details trying to imply that cases like me – much more common than here assumed, we did something “wrong” in our routine (what?), or that we have mental issues, or that we are just “trolls” (I don’t even know what that means).
And in the end, that PE is generally safe, followed by some nonsense comparison like “well, you could also die if you cross the street”, …and the final verdict that we are just “unlucky” guys.

Ok…

What I know is that outside is snowing, I am now impotent, and my marriage is over. We are almost divorcing and I don’t know what to do of my life.

First of all, I am very sorry to hear of your injury and the understandably depressed state you seem to be in. I wish you the best in dealing with your situation. If you are still an active member here, I would be curious to hear what your doctor’s prognosis for your condition is? Some nerve damage can heal, although it may take time.

Again, you are understandably depressed, frustrated and angry at your situation, but I feel the need to correct your broad brush condemnation of this site and PE enthusiasts over all. I have attached a screen shot of the opening page in the PE Basics forum. It clearly shows a warning thread titled “Read This First: A Warning To Newbies” which goes on to state that there are risks associated with PE.

It is most unfortunate that a practice that is beneficial to literally hundreds of thousands of men is not beneficial for all.

Again, hoping for the best for you and others who are in a similar situation.

Thank you for your reply.

The prognosis is irreversible numbness and impotence. After 16 months, there is no hope of improvement.

The section you posted is speaking about venous leak, not nerve damage due to stretching, what is overall here not admitted.

Sorry if you don’t agree my “broad brush condemnation” of this site, as you mentioned, but this is my opinion.
Actually, nobody knows how many men were permanently injured by PE. And I agree with what was said here before in this topic before my login: HF has become epidemic, as much PE has also become more and more popular and practiced.

Are there guys who sustain an injury from PE? Sure. Is it an epidemic? Highly unlikely in my opinion and which can’t be proved or disproved as there isn’t enough data.

The main point of the warning message holds:

QUOTE:
We have had literally thousands of PEers that have practiced PE safely. Usually the only ones that have injuries are those that go outside of recommended force levels and safe practice guidelines. However there does seem to be a very small percentage for whom even safe practices have resulted in injuries that may be permanent.

FURTHER, there doesn’t seem to be any signs or indications before hand that you may be one of these unlucky few.

THEREFORE understand that if you decide to practice PE you are doing so at your own risk.

“However there does seem to be a very small percentage for whom even safe practices have resulted in injuries that may be permanent.”
Could you please inform the source of statistics that support this “very small percentage”?

“THEREFORE understand that if you decide to practice PE you are doing so at your own risk.”
Of course I did, as many others, and supported by many ‘no-based’ statements like this above.

I am unaware of any true statistics around PE, so let’s use the statistics available from this site:

Thundersplace has 391,028 members. There are 2,474,769 posts in 162,761 threads across several forums. One forum is titled “Injuries and Treatments”, which contains 21,237 posts in 1,508 threads. The posts are less than 1% of the total posts and the threads are also less than 1% of the total threads.

The fact that the vast majority of the conversations here are discussing topics other than injuries strongly indicate that injuries are impacting a small amount of members.

This is obvious.

The guys who keep posting and posting here, year over year, and feeding this overrated “statistics of success”, are the ones who did not have serious issues.
The others with permanent injuries like me or that ones who have seen how this is dangerous after a simple “warning” during their routine, actually does not take so long to leave this environment. They start PE, and after a mild injury, although some of them post in injury section, the vast majority wake up and obviously stop and say to themselves: “these guys are mad.let`s leave behind this mania and penis size obsession and live the life.”

And more and more you have a “community of equals”, whose “statistics” is only useful to randomically confirm theirselves, and say: “wow, it is amazing how succesful is our own success, and how safe is our own safety”.

You got hurt from PE so no one should be allowed to attempt PE, that’s your solution?

The warning is always true and presented.

You are given this warning every time you participate in most activities in life.

PE is second to becoming satisfied with one’s own current penis. So start there.

PE is an intense physical process, yes there are serious risk.

Watch any human participate in a physical endeavor.

What do you think some possible next steps might be for you?

Can we help you with that?

Much love.

There are a number of things within your story that sound hyperbolic. I’d like to ask you some personal questions and get more details in order to help provide you with some advice. I would admonish you to contact us directly with your full name and order number. We keep detailed history of all LGH purchases.