Anyone with serious illness, read this.

I was just following up on these comments.

As most of the old timer know, I have an odd fascination with Canadians and wish to own a few.

Hey Tossed, nice to see you are thoroughly researching these days :)

Well appreciated.

I’ve always done research, sometimes more sometimes less; but this sounded too good to be true so I wanted to know more. Sometimes I don’t speak up when I should and I do when I shouldn’t. :)

I suffer from a few things that this MMS (supposedly) cures so I found it quite interesting.

I hope somebody does a study on this. I would like to know* why some people have found it beneficial.

*Know on a scientific basis and not hypothetical or theoretical.

Research is great, as long as you provide unbiased results, i.e., evaluate both sides, and understand how to interpret what you find. Yours seems to support only your own view, if I may say so. A couple of quick points: the body needs oxygen (obviously) and cancer (for example) doesn’t survive in oxygen. Oxidation within cells is destructive to the cells, hence the benefit of anti-oxidants. OTOH, there are numerous oxidative therapies, particularly in Europe, including ozonation and even oral hydrogen peroxide. Oxidation per se isn’t bad, and you need to achieve a balance between the therapy and the possible reactions (whatever the therapy is).

So, although I don’t know if MMS works, I’m not quite so quick to dismiss it, because I think the underlying theory has merit. Also, you are incorrect in saying it is banned in Canada. The govt has issued a warning, as it also does for *numerous* vitamin supplements and devices. Heck, arginine used to be truly banned here; I had mine confiscated at the border once coming back from the US. And arginine is widely touted as beneficial in this forum. Positive studies would be nice, but you’re simply not going to get conclusive proof for *any* therapy (including chemo, radiation, vitamins, ayurvedic, etc.). I’m happy to hear anecdotal evidence, try what seems reasonable to me, and draw my own conclusions. Keeping in mind that what works for one person may be neutral or possibly even harmful for another.

I was just kidding big guy, I know it’s fun to make fun of Canadians. But mark my words, we will invade ya! One day, with our Mounties on Horseback pillaging through your towns, and no-one will be able to stop them, no-one I tell ya!

Guys, all interested in the cream I was talking about:

I will speak to my family, but, it’s a very divided one. I will get back to you all about the cream, but don’t hold your breath.

I’m sorry I can’t offer more at the moment.

But being terribly polite about the whole thing, I am sure.

Is there anything GYPSY tears as a secret ingredient cannot do now?

I had left this thread, but decided to post this for those still interested.

This is a National Institute of Health Report done by Judith R. Lubbers, Sudha Chauan, and Joseph R. Bianchine back in 1982 where, with double blind clinical trials, they proved that ingesting chlorine dioxide had no ill effects on the human body, at least at the levels tested. I’m not sure how this dose relates to the recommended dose of MMS.

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/pm … r00463-0059.pdf

Maybe for the Chemists out there, you can figure that one out (total mg dosage/day) and post it here. The current recommendations for MMS is 1-3 drops per hour for 8 hours a day for most conditions, 10 hours a day for cancer. The number of days varies with the condition and response. I think the protocol for Malaria is different, not sure though.

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excerpted conclusion;

Routine urinalyses were performed and a meticulous examination of this body of information was made. No definitive finding of detrimental physiological impact was made in any of the three phases of this human
investigation of the relative safety and tolerance of oral chlorine disinfectant ingestion. In several cases,statistically significant trends were associated with treatment; however, none of these trends were
judged to have immediate physiological consequence.

One cannot rule out the possibility that, over a longer treatment period, these trends might indeed achieve proportions of clinical importance. However, within the limits of the study, the relative safety
of oral ingestion of chlorine dioxide and its metabolites, chlorite and chlorate, was demonstrated by the absence of detrimental physiological response.

note:not sure if this hyperlink is working, copy and paste the entire address to your browser.

At the request of a member by PM, I came back to just add this; there are many MDs and Holistic Health-care practitioners that are adding this to their arsenal of tools to restore health to patients. Is it a magic bullet that cures everything, no. Is it a very powerful modality that can help and/or eliminate a whole range of pathogens that create illness in humans, yes.

I have provided enough links for those interested to learn everything they need to know to get started, especially read the Walter Last material on MMS.

Further, it has finally come to the attention of the FDA, and they are starting to threaten anyone selling it with jail. If you are interested in buying some, I suggest doing it soon because that window might shut tight in the near future. There is a long history in the FDA of burying Cancer cures and other low cost methods of curing major diseases, and pushing through drugs that kill or injure thousands, only to be forced to recall it later. Far be it from me to say there is a profit motive behind the scenes at the FDA.

Just some food for thought;

http://articles .mercola.com/si … ne-therapy.aspx

Drug Companies are Not Looking Out for Your Health

Pharmaceutical companies have kept the wool pulled over Americans’ eyes for many years, and had many convinced that they were working fervently to develop safe medications that would cure and prevent virtually every disease plaguing the world.

But these modern-day messiahs are not the saints they would have you believe … not even close.

The drug companies that manufacture some of the best-selling drugs in the world have committed some of the greatest crimes against human health. For instance:

* Pfizer, maker of one of the biggest selling cholesterol drugs Lipitor, paid out the largest health care fraud settlement in history — $2.3 billion — for illegally promoting uses of four of its drugs. Pfizer engaged in illegally promoting one of these drugs, Bextra, for off-label use despite their knowledge that it was associated with an increased risk of stroke and heart attack.
* Another top seller, Plavix, which is manufactured by Bristol-Myers Squibb and used to help prevent strokes and heart attacks, also has serious side effects you many not be aware of. When combined with aspirin, the drug nearly doubled the death rate from heart disease among patients who had not had heart attacks but were at risk for them.
* Diabetes drug Avandia, made by GlaxoSmithKline, is still on the market despite research showing a 43 percent increased risk of heart attack and a 64 percent higher risk of cardiovascular death compared to patients treated with other methods.
* Merck, the maker of the painkiller Vioxx that killed 60,000 people, ignored research that reflected unfavorably on their drug, and they concealed heart attacks suffered by three patients during a clinical trial published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2000. They also deleted other relevant data before submitting their article for publication.
* Drug company Wyeth, who is now owned by Pfizer, paid ghostwriters to write articles promoting hormone replacement therapy (HRT), and downplaying its risks, for medical journals. Now it’s widely known that synthetic HRT increases risks of heart disease, breast cancer and other serious health problems.

The truth is, drug companies continuously display blatant disregard not only for federal laws but also for public health by aggressively developing and marketing drugs even when they know they will cause harm. They continue to do this because they are unlikely to suffer much of a consequence for their crimes.

Most people have no idea just how shielded these huge drug companies really are.

Even under the BEST circumstances — such as with a drug that has gone through unbiased, stringent, long-term testing — when it is released into the uncontrolled environment of your body, literally anything can happen — and only a tiny fraction of the possibilities have been “tested for” in a lab.

Unfortunately, those circumstances are a rarity. Studies are frequently biased, results are skewed, and drugs are put on a fast-track to be approved long before anyone knows whether they’re safe — and sometimes even when it’s known that they’re not.

“Pharmageddon” Overtaking U.S. Baby Boomers

The drug industry has successfully turned our society into a “pharmacracy” where every twitch and hiccup is deemed treatable with another prescription.

Unfortunately, treating disease symptoms with drugs will invariably create other health problems, which lead to yet another prescription to counteract the side effects from the first one, followed by another one, and another… It’s an evil circle that is now leading to a rash of prescription drug addictions and overdose deaths dubbed “pharmageddon.”

Pharmageddon is "the prospect of a world in which medicines and medicine produce more ill-health than health, and when medical progress does more harm than good" — and it is no longer a prospect but fully upon us.

Those most at risk from dying from this new drug crisis are people you would least expect: baby boomers whose doctors are only too happy to prescribe multiple medications.

As a result, in the last 20 years deaths from accidental drug overdoses have increased five-fold and, as CBS News reported, unintentional overdoses are now the leading cause of accidental death in 15 states and the District of Columbia.

So we’re seeing a mounting death toll directly attributable to prescription drugs.

According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), adverse drug reactions from drugs that are properly prescribed and properly administered cause about 106,000 deaths per year, making prescription drugs the fourth-leading cause of death in the U.S. Compare this to the death toll from illegal drugs — which is about 10,000 per year — and you begin to see the magnitude of the problem, and the magnitude of the coverup.

We are indeed a nation of drug addicts, and just like old-fashioned street junkies, we’re spending every penny we have to feed the beast. Unfortunately, now people are dying in droves because of our dependency on a quick, but dangerous, fix.

Should You Put Your Health in the Hands of the Drug Companies?

Drugs should typically not be your first choice when dealing with a health problem. I realize that it takes a massive shift in thinking to realize that your body can heal itself, and that often drugs only hinder the process.

But I can’t stress enough the importance of the most basic principle of HOW to resolve an illness: finding the underlying cause of the problem. Masking it with a drug that lessens your symptoms does not fix anything.

For example, all of the following conditions can be treated or prevented with LIFESTYLE CHANGES, yet if you go to a typical doctor, you will likely be prescribed a potentially dangerous drug instead:

* Diabetes
* Heart disease
* High blood pressure
* High cholesterol
* Insomnia

Disease can only be resolved by addressing its root cause, so that is what you should strive for. Remember, leading a common sense, healthy lifestyle is your best bet to produce a healthy body and mind, and increase your longevity.

So first and foremost I encourage you to follow these basic health tenets if you want to avoid these and other terrible diseases.

Next, seek out a physician or health coach that understands your body’s innate ability to heal, who will provide guidance into natural and truly safe treatment methods that go above and beyond a bottle of pills.

In the event your doctor or coach suggests you take a drug, research it before you take it. Do not believe for one minute that your physician will have all the answers and all the latest research findings at his or her fingertips. They won’t. Most physicians will have little to offer you aside from the lines they learned from their drug reps.

Also, it’s a good idea to keep in mind the very real fact that drug companies are ALLOWED to continue making drugs despite being caught lying, defrauding, and even knowingly killing its customers time and time again.

Then take a look at the frequently devastating side effects that are listed on the drug’s label. Remember that even if it lists a side effect as rare, it can still happen to you.

Also remember that a large number of drugs are vastly over-prescribed and unnecessary. They’re frequently referred to as “blockbuster drugs.” If several people you know are on it, ask yourself, “why?” and “what alternatives do I have?”

More often than not, you will discover there are numerous non-drug alternatives to help you not only resolve your health complaint, but go on to reach true optimal health.

I don’t think MMS is a cure all. I do however think the FDA is the most corrupt agency in the US Government. It’s a fact that many of the major players in the FDA were once big pharma execs. Follow the dollars boys.

Its so cheap and inexpensive, certainly worth trying it. Does not seem to harm anyone as the does is minute. If it does work I could see why their would be huge forces trying to ban it.

No need to be so skeptical I think: I suppose this thing must be cheap(Clo2) and it doesn’t have a side effect. So, especially if one gets no treatment from orthodox medicine, he should give it a trial.

Does orthodox medicine deserve the amount of respect and credit it’s getting now from most people? Many people are always ill and continuously getting medicine, like drug users. Aren’t we (as people) supposed to be healthy? Something is definitely wrong.

Although I don’t like the word “magic”, I think all ways of alternative treatments/approaches must be genuinely considered. I doubt someone else (authorities?) will do it for us though. Because there is no dollar in it. So do your own work guys.

Sparky,

I had long illness and tried that miracle mineral along with many
herbs and drugs too. It did help some but I got
better with the Cowden Protocal. Dr. Cowden
is an md who has done a lot of studies on herbs and there use to treat
diseases. They also kill bacteria, parasites, and viruses.
Im sure you being a chiropractor have tried many herbs.
But these herbs really work and they have used them in Peru for
years. Samento Cats Claw is one. Here is there site.
NutraMedix® Official Site | Herbal Supplements.