Change in erection hardness after taking pills

I was wondering how much of a change in erection strength is developed after taking supplement pills.

For instance lets say on a scale of 1 to 10
If I originally had an 8 can pills make it a 10
Just wondering how much harder my erections will be when I start to supplement.

Thanks for any responses.

What pills are you talking about? If you’re talking about cialis, or viagra. I’d say it could turn a “5” boner into a “10”. If you’re talking about some other kinds of pills, like ginko, or something, maybe an increase of “1” or so…Then again, the placebo effect alone could give you a big boost!

I’m talking about pills like VigRX or even just vitamins like Macao and yohimbe but not pills like Viagra or cialis. Pills that increase performance not treat ed.

I took vigrx for a while, and actually I just started them up again.. Anyway.. I probably went from a 7.5-8 to a 9, although I’m not in the best mental state as of late (stress)..

Vigrx alone might add 1-1.5 points., I think the combination of PE and vigrx would add more points.. So if you ask me vigrx is a gimmick, I took it alone, and it didn’t add any size, from someones who has taken it, it’s not really worth purchasing, but it’s your decision..

I got stuck with 4 months of it.. Id do some research into l-arginine and kegels, kegels will definitely help out a lot

Some guys use herbals like yohimbe to treat ED and plenty of guys without ED use Tadalafil (cialis) for recreation.

I was asking because I don’t want to get to my desired size and be pissed because I couldn’t get a full on hard erection.

Thanks for the input guys.

:)

I’m one of those who use Cialis for fun, though lately I’ve been wondering if it may cause ED issues in the future.

I noticed a slight but mostly neglible difference when using other supplements, but again, I don’t have ED issues and am overall healthy.

I’m in the same boat as you. I take it every once in a while, but I think I’m going to stop as well. Something about taking medication for a problem that you don’t have. I just have a gut feeling that it could potentially lead to problems. Although I have no proof to back it up, I’d rather err on the side of caution.

For those of you afraid that Viagra or Cialis taken recreationally might do long term damage, here is some evidence that suggests just the opposite. I will paste it here rather than link to it because it is from a member only physician site:

Long-term Nightly Sildenafil Promotes Normal Erectile Function

Paula Moyer, MA
Medscape Medical News 2004. © 2004 Medscape

May 12, 2004 (San Francisco) — Use of sildenafil (Viagra) every night, rather than on an as-needed basis, may do more to restore erectile function by promoting more nocturnal erections, according to findings presented here at the 99th annual meeting of the American Urological Association.

“Nightly sildenafil may help promote erectile function as the result of its beneficial effect on endothelial cells,” Frank Sommer, MD, said in a press briefing. “Nocturnal erections promote adequate oxygenation of the penis and reduce collagen levels, and nightly sildenafil facilitates nocturnal erections.” Dr. Sommer is the chief of andrology in the department of urology at the University of Cologne in Germany. The current research is part of a larger German study project, the Men’s Health Study Group.

Dr. Sommer and colleagues enrolled 76 patients who had experienced erectile dysfunction (ED) for at least six months in a prospective, randomized controlled trial to determine whether sildenafil taken every night affected erectile function after one year. These patients were assigned to two groups. Group 1 took 50 mg of sildenafil nightly at bedtime. Group 2 took 50 to 100 mg of sildenafil on demand. The investigators also followed a third group that consisted of patients with ED who chose not to receive any medical therapy. The patients were an average of 47.1 years old.

The two treatment groups received sildenafil for 12 months; the treatment phase was followed by two wash-out phases with no treatment, consisting of one month and then an additional six months for treatment responders. The investigators measured response with the International Index of Erectile Function (IIEF) questionnaire and peak systolic velocity (PSV) of penile arteries after 12 and 13 months of treatment.

The investigators defined patients with an IIEF domain score of more than 26 as having normal erectile function. After the one-month wash-out phase, 58.8% of group 1 and 9.7% of group 2 had an IIEF domain score exceeding 26. The PSV of the cavernous arteries improved in group 1 from 29.4 ± 9.8 cm/sec to 38.9 ± 10.3 cm/sec (P < .05). In group 2, the investigators documented a small, statistically insignificant improvement in PSV, averaging 3.0 cm/sec. In group 3, the PSV declined slightly.

Of the 34 patients in group 1, 20 had an IIEF domain score exceeding 26. These 20 patients with normal erectile function were followed for an additional six months while not receiving any medication. Of these 20 patients, all but one (95%) still had normal erectile function at the end of the final wash-out period.

“This is the only study we know of that has investigated the long-term effects of taking [erectogenic therapy] on a daily basis,” Dr. Sommer told presenters. “After only one year, sildenafil taken regularly at bedtime may be able to bring about regression of ED, or may be a useful tool for curing ED.”

“We know that sildenafil protects the endothelium, which is the primary regulator of blood flow in many organs, particularly organs like the penis,” John P. Mulhall, MD, told Medscape in an interview seeking independent comment. “However, change in blood flow as an end point may pose difficulties, because you can have considerable intra-individual variation.” Dr. Mulhall is an associate professor of urology at Weill Medical College of Cornell in New York, where he is also director of sexual medicine in the departments of urology at both Weill and at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center.

“Also, we don’t know how frequently the on-demand group used sildenafil,” he said. “Did they use it once a week, three times a week, or once a month? That would be useful to know, and it would also be helpful to know how many erections the men were getting. A study like this would be helped not only by a sildenafil diary, but also by an erection diary, including nocturnal erections.”

The concept of nightly sildenafil deserves thought, Dr. Mulhall said, noting that some urologists are advising nightly sildenafil as a way to restore erectile function. “We need a large, well-done study to define the use of medications to preserve or improve erectile function,” he said. “We should also be profiling responders [to erectogenic treatment]. We should start identifying who they are, how long they’ve had ED, and what other comorbidities they have.” Such information will help physicians know who will respond to treatment and therefore when to prescribe erectogenic therapy, he said.

AUA 99th Annual Meeting: Abstract 903. Presented May 10, 2004.

Reviewed by Gary D. Vogin, MD