Closing down all the generic drug web sites/and finding open sites for generic drugs

My concerns on research liquid sites are many:

1. They all operate illegally and while they try to claim to be legal, the reality is a few from the past have been busted.
2.Ultimately, dealing with a criminal enterprise is risky because there is NO oversight of them at all. No checks get done I’d bet on what they import as powder, they won’t be operating in a GMP certified manufacturing facility, with a white room that’s a sterile environment, and which can be checked at any time by the FDA. Instead, it’s a guy importing a powder which is based on an unregulated Chinese exporters word that it is what it is meant to be. No checking gets done and it’s probably assembled into a liquid form in an Ikea kitchen. Just not worth it.
3. Still, with USA medicines being sooo expensive I think the best route is a site operating out of Canada or Western Europe as I’d feel that their QC is high and prices would be low enough to avoid taking god knows what from a glorified drug dealer.

Of course you can buy without a prescription and they are not in the u.s or else I wouldn’t use them.

I concur about liquid sites. For all we know the guy could drop a vial and accidentally give you 1000 times the cialis dose. Stick with pills.

Hi Guys. This is actually my first post, I’m looking forward to participating in all the discussions. This post caught my eye because I actually work within the pharmaceutical sector in the the U.S. Davetherave makes valid points, what I’d like to highlight is that the authenticity of medicines these days is becoming more difficult to determine as the processes of faking medicines are becoming more complex. We recently got word from partners in Europe that there is fake batch of Cialis within the pharmacy supply chain, clearly bad news! I’ll post the link so anyone taking Cialis can look at what they’re taking.

If you look at the boxes you can clearly see that to the uneducated user there is no difference. Also take into account that these Cialis are in the legitimate pharmacy supply chain where counterfeit products are rarely found! I’m not knocking the Europeans for this but my advice is your generally best buying from Canada.

So you have 9 post and all are for this website hmmmmmmm. I hope the mods ban you

Oh wait I’m sorry I just looked you have other website you promote this is considered spam here at thunders

Dave while I do agree with you on some points it’s all in a grey area and can be considered illegal without a script, whether it’s Canada, research chems, or overseas. Regardless of where we get them from it can still be a shot in the dark. I buy from those research guys because they are based here in the US, other long standing members have had good results and since trying them so have I

Hey Kingscounty

The thing about legalities is complicated to say the least.

Is it legal for me to personally import drugs? | FDA

FDA states it’s illegal straight up but reading on it seems to be pretty much ok with small scale personal imports of genuine medicines which aren’t controlled.

FDA, however, has a policy explaining that it typically does not object to personal imports of drugs that FDA has not approved under certain circumstances, including the following situation:

The drug is for use for a serious condition for which effective treatment is not available in the United States;

There is no commercialization or promotion of the drug to U.S. residents;

The drug is considered not to represent an unreasonable risk;

The individual importing the drug verifies in writing that it is for his or her own use, and provides contact information for the doctor providing treatment or shows the product is for the continuation of treatment begun in a foreign country; and

Generally, not more than a 3-month supply of the drug is imported.

Now, reading that carefully it does say including the following situations not that all points need to be covered off (let’s face it, the point about providing contact info for a doctor isn’t gonna happen).

I guess where I am getting at is that while it makes sense from a cost perspective for you to go to PP or similar RC website, from a strictly legal/safety/cost point of view:

1. It should be possible to find someone selling pharma grade sildenafil/tadalafil cheaper than the site you refer (30ml for $50 isn’t that cheap IMO given wholesale cost of genuine generic pharma ED drugs is under 20 cents or so)
2. Such product would be safer as it’s made by a large pharma company vs a dude in his kitchen.
3. FDA let’s you import meds.

I’m gonna dig around and see if I can find someone who meets the criteria of offering genuine pharma products at a good price and is from a country which isn’t high risk (meaning it clears customs reliably & product safety is guaranteed).

Do you see how those guidelines become a grey area, especially if you don’t have a law degree. I don’t think the DEA is going to knock on anyone’s door over some ED pills tho.

Please do some digging and get back to us. It would be nice to find what your looking for, for all of us also looking for it.

On side note has anyone tried the viagra cialis combo? I accidentally ordered that thinking it was separate not a combo of the two. I don’t like the idea of mixing these two

Valid points here however you fail to mention an additional stipulation to personal importation which goes something like ‘can only import if there is no commercial alternative available in the U.S’. In the majority of cases there is an alternative available. Yeah everyone does it, but is that person technically breaking the law? Yes.

Well I think the government has better things to do than jail a guy for getting 30 tabs of Viagra.

From the FDA’s Website: “the FDA does not have authority to approve drugs sold in Canada. And if a Canadian company is selling drugs only for export to the United States, and not to Canadian citizens, Health Canada may not regulate the drugs or the company at all. Drugs coming to the United States from Canada may be coming from some other country and simply passing through Canada. The drugs could also be counterfeit, contaminated, or subpotent, among other things (see “Potential Health Risks With Imported Drugs”).

Seems like all viagra/cialis generics come from india and sold through canada worldwide without any oversight of safety/quality whatsoever.

Hi Professor 09,

Thanks for this. I guess the recent highprofile case of counterfeit Avastin, among others, does indicate that this does happen. Would be good to hear the perspective of anyone involved in the pharmaceutical supply chain in Canada. Maybe buying from Europe is a better option in terms of guarenteed safety/quality. However obtaining products from Europe will become extremely difficult when the Europeans bring out the Falsified Medicines Directive in 15 months time.

Actually, Dave, we re branded recently and are now back in operation. We still ship from the same location as before (we don’t publicly disclose it but within the European Union). If you or anyone has any questions on product licensing, methods involved to ensure supply chain integrity, and so forth we can provide more details (basing this on the correspondence involving several members subsequent to your post above where there seems to be a reliance on underground research laboratories and the like).

If your selling something you need a commercial account, please PM a mod for one or you risk being banned. Thank you for being upfront

Hello kings county, we came across Dave’s post through the use of analytic software we have which identifies when our brand name is used anywhere on the web (albeit a brand we do not use now).

We would not come here to promote commercial services which is why we did not specify our new domain name but if you can suggest a mod for us to contact we will go ahead and do as you suggest. Thanks for your suggestion.