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@Mr. Pharma I will play around with some doses as well


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5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

Hi all,

Thank you to everyone who has made this such a great forum – I only just found it last week and it’s been incredibly informative!

I’m hoping those more experienced than me can help decipher the different way that Pygeum ingredients and strength are displayed on bottles.

I’ll be using iHerb to supply the supplements. Piping Rock is not an option because they do not appear to ship this type of product to my country (Australia).

The Swansons brand has an option for a 100 capsule and a 120 capsule bottle of Pygeum extract, but the way the ingredients are listed differs.

For the 100 capsule bottle, serving size 2 capsules, A$12.38:
Pygeum africanum 4:1 Extract (Bark) (equivalent to 1 g), amount per serving 250mg.
[this math makes sense. 4 x 250mg = 1g, which matches a 4:1 ratio]

For the 120 capsule bottle, serving size 1 capsule, A$19.20:
Pygeum africanum (bark), amount per serving 400mg
Pygeum africanum Extract (bark) (25% phytosterols), amount per serving 26mg

I’ve seen posters refer to various dosages of Pygeum, from 200mg and up, and I believe this normally refers to the “extract” rather than just the “bark”. For simplicity, let’s assume a desired dosage of 500mg.

It seems to me that this would be achieved by 4 capsules (2 serving sizes) of the 100 capsule bottle.

For cost/convenience though I would prefer to buy the 120 capsule bottle – and it has a higher cost per capsule than the 100 capsule bottle and so I assume higher strength.

However, I can’t figure out why the extract amount per serving of 26mg is so much lower in the 120 capsule compared to the 250mg extract amount listed for the 100 capsule bottle, or how the “25% phytosterols” part fits in.

I’m obviously missing something basic. I’d be grateful if someone could let me know how to compare the strength of the capsules in the 100 and 120 capsule bottles, and/or the math to work out how many capsules of the 120 capsule equates to approximately 500mg (bark extract?).

Thanks!
Jax

Cayenne Pepper for me, raging hardons. I take 1 teaspoon in a glass of water daily. Also cinnamon tea at night. The best morning wood ever.

Originally Posted by getbig65
Cayenne Pepper for me, raging hardons. I take 1 teaspoon in a glass of water daily. Also cinnamon tea at night. The best morning wood ever.

Cinnamon Tea, ill try that

Originally Posted by Ares01

lets go!

Zinc is also very good.

Ares01 Awesome! Please report back


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

Originally Posted by getbig65

Cayenne Pepper for me, raging hardons. I take 1 teaspoon in a glass of water daily. Also cinnamon tea at night. The best morning wood ever.

I’ve recently started taking Cayenne for blood pressure, which has helped but unfortunately hasn’t helped any with erections. Maybe I need to increase, only been taking 1/2 teaspoon.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Read a few pages, I’ve tried that stack from feedbacks above:
- Lecithin (soy) - 1200mg
- L-Arginine - 500mg
- Citruline malate - 500mg
- Adhwagandha - 600mg

=> Good erection improvement. I never had issues but I definitely felt it harder.

- Bromelain - 500mg
=> Good effect on taste. I had a huge improvement in taste (wife loved it) when I turned vegetarian a few years ago. I’ve come back to meat this year and quickly experienced a worse taste. Bromelain improved quickly the taste, though not as good as when I was vegetarian.

- Recently added pygeum (200mg) + saw palmetto (500mg). Increased to 400mg + 1000mg quickly.
=> Huge effect on load. It’s definitely amazing, and I think that increasing the dose improved the effect. I’m ejaculating easily five large shots, sometimes up to 7-8 shots. Becomes pretty thick if is wait a few days, more than before. What also strikes me is that it seems to be pretty consistent across several ejaculations in the same day (where I usually experienced a large decrease in volume after the first one).

Few thoughts for the future:
- I’ve quickly put everything together but I’ll then try to identify what works best. Like stacking one new supplement each month.
- Drinking lots of water helps a lot. It’s necessary for the stack to work but not sufficient to get consistent huge loads.
- Kegels work great for erection quality but needs to be done consistently. I used to do kegels three times a day, and I felt very strong erections after a few months. I’ve then stopped for a year or so and lost a part of the sensation.
- I need to do some research on side effects, especially on pygeum and saw palmetto. I feel like it may increase body hair growth (I have very few and done some laser, and I’ve seen some unexpected growth recently, so I think that I should investigate the hormonal effect of these molecules).

Originally Posted by Jigyo
Read a few pages, I’ve tried that stack from feedbacks above:
- Lecithin (soy) - 1200mg
- L-Arginine - 500mg
- Citruline malate - 500mg
- Adhwagandha - 600mg

=> Good erection improvement. I never had issues but I definitely felt it harder.

- Bromelain - 500mg
=> Good effect on taste. I had a huge improvement in taste (wife loved it) when I turned vegetarian a few years ago. I’ve come back to meat this year and quickly experienced a worse taste. Bromelain improved quickly the taste, though not as good as when I was vegetarian.

- Recently added pygeum (200mg) + saw palmetto (500mg). Increased to 400mg + 1000mg quickly.
=> Huge effect on load. It’s definitely amazing, and I think that increasing the dose improved the effect. I’m ejaculating easily five large shots, sometimes up to 7-8 shots. Becomes pretty thick if is wait a few days, more than before. What also strikes me is that it seems to be pretty consistent across several ejaculations in the same day (where I usually experienced a large decrease in volume after the first one).

Few thoughts for the future:
- I’ve quickly put everything together but I’ll then try to identify what works best. Like stacking one new supplement each month.
- Drinking lots of water helps a lot. It’s necessary for the stack to work but not sufficient to get consistent huge loads.
- Kegels work great for erection quality but needs to be done consistently. I used to do kegels three times a day, and I felt very strong erections after a few months. I’ve then stopped for a year or so and lost a part of the sensation.
- I need to do some research on side effects, especially on pygeum and saw palmetto. I feel like it may increase body hair growth (I have very few and done some laser, and I’ve seen some unexpected growth recently, so I think that I should investigate the hormonal effect of these molecules).

What do the Citruline malate and Adhwagandha do?

Wow, really interesting thread!!

To be honest though, I didn’t read all *222 pages* of posts (who would?!). But after looking for these ingredients on amazon, i came across a product that contains all of them: popstar. It doesn’t say which concentration for each ingredient though. I gave it a try. After 2-3 days, my loads doubled!!

Not sure if I’ll continue this long term because I don’t want to decrease DHT.

When Wifey realizes you are a big load man, you never go back to ordinary! It’s an awesome feeling when she knows you can give her a big load! Since I’m in my mid 40’s I do two single multi-orgasms ( Orgasm with little or no cum) a week and two full ejaculations. She can’t wait when I give her it all and she loves to see me orgasm with no cum and that she is getting laid good the next night again.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

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