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Holy Grail of Cum Load Increase

I’ve been taking
Daily:
Zinc 22mg
Sunflower lecithin 1200mg
Vitamin d 2500u daily
And L citrulline 8g on days I will cum.
I’ve had the most success from these. Can anyone recommend any supplements I can add to my stack for bigger loads/orgasm/erections.

I’ve had some success with taking 2400mg of lecithin the day before release. How is everyone dosing lecithin?

@Bergbrauchen @flexy

Hello all

I’m also in the EU and struggling with a proper pygeum source. There is a new development in the two varieties of Swanson pygeum on the EU market, as I recently received a new Swanson formulation which has not been mentioned here.

I ordered two bottles of Swanson Pygeum “Featuring Pygeum Bark and Extract”. This was advertised as containing 120 x 500mg capsules containing 400mg bark and 100mg extract (6.5% phytosterols), a formulation which has been mentioned here on the forum in multiple posts.

However, what I received is 120 capsules of 426mg capsules containing 400mg bark and 26mg extract (25% phytosterols). The batch number is B246741 and the BBD is 07/23.

Obviously, 6.5% of 100mg and 25% of 26mg both work out to 6.5mg, so seems like the dosage is the same. I asked the seller about the difference and he said this is what they received from Swanson when they reordered the regular SKU, so it might be a replacement going forward for that formulation.

The other Swanson option is the “Standardized Extract” formulation, 100 x 250mg capsules advertised as a “4:1 extract” with no further information regarding phytosterols.

Has anyone got any experience with the 426mg capsules as opposed to the previous 500mg formulation?

Any suggestions between the 426mg capsules containing 6.5mg phytosterols as opposed to the 250mg capsules with the “4:1 extract”?

Thanks very much.

Results so far

Hello to everyone still on this thread, went ahead and decided to take the plunge on this stack. Wasn’t much of a supplement consumer until now.
Up until now, been doing just kegels and edging to better myself, but don’t quite know where to start in regards to increasing length or girth.
Anyway my current stack so far:

1 x Carlyle Pygeum 4000mg
2 x NOW Sunflower Lecithin 1200mg
1 x NOW L-Arginine 1000mg
1 x Nature’s Bounty Zinc 50mg

The usual procedure is me waking up and taking the zinc with 8oz water, then having my breakfast with the rest of the stack. Do my kegels throughout the day, then take in the extra Lecithin by dinner. Drink plenty of water throughout the day, I refill my 17oz bottle multiple times during passing period. I also take 1 x GNC Pro Performance Nighttime Blend Zinc Magnesium before I hit the hay, but depending on what I’ve eaten that day (like extra beef) I cycle through the morning and night Zinc. It never hits 100mg, though, I know my limits.

Since I’m also doing NNN, I haven’t let out my progress just yet but Day 12 of my stack so far, and I feel great down there. Consistent morning wood as far as I remember, semis to full members throughout the day. Feels like bliss when I edge and hold in my progress.

Gotta say though, not sure what constitutes as good pre-cum.

Originally Posted by Enigmatize
As a side note: After being on Pygeum for 5 straight weeks now, I leak pre-cum like a damn faucet. This stuff definitely activates the Cowper’s gland.

How much would I be leaking to be considered packing? Every other few jerks I get drop after drop of the stuff, and when I touch it it stretches for inches on end when I pull it slowly, and “snaps” when I pull it fast, sorta like silly putty lol

I’m glad to come across this forum, will update as time goes on

OH and I’ve also been eating a stalk of celery almost everyday, take of that what you will

Originally Posted by pkd81
@Bergbrauchen @flexy

Hello all

I’m also in the EU and struggling with a proper pygeum source. There is a new development in the two varieties of Swanson pygeum on the EU market, as I recently received a new Swanson formulation which has not been mentioned here.

I ordered two bottles of Swanson Pygeum "Featuring Pygeum Bark and Extract". This was advertised as containing 120 x 500mg capsules containing 400mg bark and 100mg extract (6.5% phytosterols), a formulation which has been mentioned here on the forum in multiple posts.

However, what I received is 120 capsules of 426mg capsules containing 400mg bark and 26mg extract (25% phytosterols). The batch number is B246741 and the BBD is 07/23.

Obviously, 6.5% of 100mg and 25% of 26mg both work out to 6.5mg, so seems like the dosage is the same. I asked the seller about the difference and he said this is what they received from Swanson when they reordered the regular SKU, so it might be a replacement going forward for that formulation.

The other Swanson option is the "Standardized Extract" formulation, 100 x 250mg capsules advertised as a "4:1 extract" with no further information regarding phytosterols.

Has anyone got any experience with the 426mg capsules as opposed to the previous 500mg formulation?

Any suggestions between the 426mg capsules containing 6.5mg phytosterols as opposed to the 250mg capsules with the "4:1 extract"?

Thanks very much.

I stopped taking Pygeum because it lowered my libido by a lot, although personally I found that 1/3 (500mg) of the daily serving taken once a week still achieved great results for me as far as precum production, but with lessened reduction in sex drive that only lasts about a day and a half.

I actually ended up taking a formulation of Tribulus Terrestris (7000mg), Maca (1400mg), Panax (400mg), and Ashwagandha (800mg) from zolotus and noticed a lot more precum than normal even without the Pygeum (If I had to guess I’d say it’s from the Maca). It also doesn’t give me any noticeable reduction in sex drive.
Could be a good alternative if you’re still having issues getting Pygeum, but I think Pygeum gives a good bit more precum at the dosages I tried. I might actually get standalone bottles of the individual supplements and see if I can match or exceed what I got from Pygeum; will report back here if I do.
Also I added Vitamin E and Astragalus to my stack in the same period, but I don’t think that should have any effect on precum.

My Updated Stack:
Zinc - 50mg
L-Citrulline - 2000mg
L-Arginine - 1000mg
Tribulus + Maca blend - 9600mg
Lecithin - 1200mg (2400mg every other day)



Non-load related:
Vitamin E - 180mg
Vitamin D- 125mcg
Astragalus - 500mg

This is the tribulus formulation I have https://www.ama … /dp/B09K34B9RN/

Hi guys,

Long term lurker first time poster. Just wanted to share my experience with a monster load that I once found by mistake.

Here in Australia we have this sports drink called “Staminade”. It’s like Gatorade or Powerade and as far as I can tell it is mostly the same except it’s locally made.

Anyway, it comes in a powder that you can use to make up to 9L by diluting it with water. Google staminade if you’re interested.

One summer I made up a big batch and drank it over 2 days. Now these days were over 40c so it was sweltering hot and I was outside a lot, drinking this stuff down. Ended up consuming the entire tub of powder in these 2 days, but not necessarily urinating any more than usual because I was sweating it all through.

On the 3rd day I masturbated, didn’t expect anything because I wasn’t trying to do increase my cum load so I was taken by surprise when I came like a fountain - both power and volume. It wasn’t many ropes or anything, just one big powerful cum shot.

I tried to replicate it a second time, but this time I was sitting in my air con on the computer the whole time so the solution went straight through me, going to the toilet often and peeing very clear. This time there was no discernible increase.

The third time, I had just met my gf (now wife) and tried to replicate it, again during summer, again on a very hot day but this time I was working outside as well so I went through the entire thing in one day, sweating my ass off from hard work.

It was either the next day or the day after I invited her around to see if it worked, and sure enough it did. I didn’t get to see it shoot out because I came inside her but I could feel the volume as it came out, and when I finally pulled out let’s just say there was just a huge mess inside and outside where it all spilled out.

I’m trying to figure out exactly what made it happen - because when you look at the ingredients nothing really stands out except it says it has magnesium. I’ve tried isolating that and taking magnesium supplementation alone and that did nothing.

I’ve come close to this one other way, and that’s with fruit. When I was away for work I was trying to be healthy and had a meal allowance so I just consumed fruit and nothing else all day, with restaurant meals at night. I’m talking like 6 bananas, maybe 6-8 mandarins, and I think some kiwifruit as well? 2 days of that and I masturbated in my hotel room at the end of shift. The volume wasn’t like a staminade load but it was definitely bigger than usual. But the power behind it my God. I basically had to Matrix-dodge it to stop it hitting me in the face. I was on this job for a week and stuck with the fruit each day (since I bought A LOT). Sure enough every 2 days I had a play and had to dodge them loads. Back home, diet back to normal, and loads back to normal.

Wonder if there are any smarter heads on this forum that can figure it out? Because drinking 9L of sport drink just to cum like a fountain isn’t exactly sustainable or healthy. The one thing everything has in common is that both the fruit combo and staminade are high in potassium and magnesium, so maybe hydration is key with the right combo of minerals?

Originally Posted by BigLoadz
Hi guys,

Long term lurker first time poster. Just wanted to share my experience with a monster load that I once found by mistake.

Here in Australia we have this sports drink called “Staminade”. It’s like Gatorade or Powerade and as far as I can tell it is mostly the same except it’s locally made.

Anyway, it comes in a powder that you can use to make up to 9L by diluting it with water. Google staminade if you’re interested.

One summer I made up a big batch and drank it over 2 days. Now these days were over 40c so it was sweltering hot and I was outside a lot, drinking this stuff down. Ended up consuming the entire tub of powder in these 2 days, but not necessarily urinating any more than usual because I was sweating it all through.

On the 3rd day I masturbated, didn’t expect anything because I wasn’t trying to do increase my cum load so I was taken by surprise when I came like a fountain - both power and volume. It wasn’t many ropes or anything, just one big powerful cum shot.

I tried to replicate it a second time, but this time I was sitting in my air con on the computer the whole time so the solution went straight through me, going to the toilet often and peeing very clear. This time there was no discernible increase.

The third time, I had just met my gf (now wife) and tried to replicate it, again during summer, again on a very hot day but this time I was working outside as well so I went through the entire thing in one day, sweating my ass off from hard work.

It was either the next day or the day after I invited her around to see if it worked, and sure enough it did. I didn’t get to see it shoot out because I came inside her but I could feel the volume as it came out, and when I finally pulled out let’s just say there was just a huge mess inside and outside where it all spilled out.

I’m trying to figure out exactly what made it happen - because when you look at the ingredients nothing really stands out except it says it has magnesium. I’ve tried isolating that and taking magnesium supplementation alone and that did nothing.

I’ve come close to this one other way, and that’s with fruit. When I was away for work I was trying to be healthy and had a meal allowance so I just consumed fruit and nothing else all day, with restaurant meals at night. I’m talking like 6 bananas, maybe 6-8 mandarins, and I think some kiwifruit as well? 2 days of that and I masturbated in my hotel room at the end of shift. The volume wasn’t like a staminade load but it was definitely bigger than usual. But the power behind it my God. I basically had to Matrix-dodge it to stop it hitting me in the face. I was on this job for a week and stuck with the fruit each day (since I bought A LOT). Sure enough every 2 days I had a play and had to dodge them loads. Back home, diet back to normal, and loads back to normal.

Wonder if there are any smarter heads on this forum that can figure it out? Because drinking 9L of sport drink just to cum like a fountain isn’t exactly sustainable or healthy. The one thing everything has in common is that both the fruit combo and staminade are high in potassium and magnesium, so maybe hydration is key with the right combo of minerals?

It could just be that you came huge after a few days of a break of cumming. Day 3 and you exploded; day 3 is what some experts say is the day your sperm starts to recycle so if you let loose on day 3 you are really letting loose! I know this too, I wait 3 days sometimes on purpose and its like a truck coming out of me lol


Starting length, Spring 2003: bpel 6 3/8", bpfsl ~6 1/2", flaccid ~3-4" (never measured flaccid stretched or hanging flaccid; starting girth was probably ~5"-5 1/4")

Summer 2004: bpel 7 7/8", bpfsl 8 1/8", flaccid ~4", erect girth 5.3"

Spring 2018: bpel 7 1/4", bpfsl 7 5/8", erect girth 5 1/8"; Spring 2020: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth 5 3/8". Current - August 2023: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth mid shaft 5 1/4" (5 1/2" at base)

Originally Posted by BigLoadz
Hi guys,

Long term lurker first time poster. Just wanted to share my experience with a monster load that I once found by mistake.

Here in Australia we have this sports drink called “Staminade”. It’s like Gatorade or Powerade and as far as I can tell it is mostly the same except it’s locally made.

Anyway, it comes in a powder that you can use to make up to 9L by diluting it with water. Google staminade if you’re interested.

One summer I made up a big batch and drank it over 2 days. Now these days were over 40c so it was sweltering hot and I was outside a lot, drinking this stuff down. Ended up consuming the entire tub of powder in these 2 days, but not necessarily urinating any more than usual because I was sweating it all through.

On the 3rd day I masturbated, didn’t expect anything because I wasn’t trying to do increase my cum load so I was taken by surprise when I came like a fountain - both power and volume. It wasn’t many ropes or anything, just one big powerful cum shot.

I tried to replicate it a second time, but this time I was sitting in my air con on the computer the whole time so the solution went straight through me, going to the toilet often and peeing very clear. This time there was no discernible increase.

The third time, I had just met my gf (now wife) and tried to replicate it, again during summer, again on a very hot day but this time I was working outside as well so I went through the entire thing in one day, sweating my ass off from hard work.

It was either the next day or the day after I invited her around to see if it worked, and sure enough it did. I didn’t get to see it shoot out because I came inside her but I could feel the volume as it came out, and when I finally pulled out let’s just say there was just a huge mess inside and outside where it all spilled out.

I’m trying to figure out exactly what made it happen - because when you look at the ingredients nothing really stands out except it says it has magnesium. I’ve tried isolating that and taking magnesium supplementation alone and that did nothing.

I’ve come close to this one other way, and that’s with fruit. When I was away for work I was trying to be healthy and had a meal allowance so I just consumed fruit and nothing else all day, with restaurant meals at night. I’m talking like 6 bananas, maybe 6-8 mandarins, and I think some kiwifruit as well? 2 days of that and I masturbated in my hotel room at the end of shift. The volume wasn’t like a staminade load but it was definitely bigger than usual. But the power behind it my God. I basically had to Matrix-dodge it to stop it hitting me in the face. I was on this job for a week and stuck with the fruit each day (since I bought A LOT). Sure enough every 2 days I had a play and had to dodge them loads. Back home, diet back to normal, and loads back to normal.

Wonder if there are any smarter heads on this forum that can figure it out? Because drinking 9L of sport drink just to cum like a fountain isn’t exactly sustainable or healthy. The one thing everything has in common is that both the fruit combo and staminade are high in potassium and magnesium, so maybe hydration is key with the right combo of minerals?

Hi BL,
Do you mind sharing your age? I’ve had similar experiences but now at age 52 that seems to have passed. I’d love to re visit that feeling.

Originally Posted by pumpedmember
It could just be that you came huge after a few days of a break of cumming. Day 3 and you exploded; day 3 is what some experts say is the day your sperm starts to recycle so if you let loose on day 3 you are really letting loose! I know this too, I wait 3 days sometimes on purpose and its like a truck coming out of me lol

I hear you, I know what you mean about saving it up for 3 days. Hell, I sometimes go a week. Definitely see an increase but this experience I had with staminade was like something from another dimension. It had the thickness and power of urinating with a full bladder for like a whole second, but because it was an orgasm it had a totally different feeling. Drained the absolute life out of me that’s for sure. The only 2 times I experienced that next level cum river was after staminade.

As for my age? Well the staminade loads happened when I was 20, the fruit loads happened when I was about 30, and I am now mid 30s and tempted to try one or two of the experiments again now that we are heading into Australian summer.

Originally Posted by BigLoadz
I hear you, I know what you mean about saving it up for 3 days. Hell, I sometimes go a week. Definitely see an increase but this experience I had with staminade was like something from another dimension. It had the thickness and power of urinating with a full bladder for like a whole second, but because it was an orgasm it had a totally different feeling. Drained the absolute life out of me that’s for sure. The only 2 times I experienced that next level cum river was after staminade.

As for my age? Well the staminade loads happened when I was 20, the fruit loads happened when I was about 30, and I am now mid 30s and tempted to try one or two of the experiments again now that we are heading into Australian summer.

From age 28 to 34 for me was the most volume I’ve ejaculated. When you mention working hard and stressed that’s where I was in my work life and when a new lady came around that I wanted my loads were incredible. Maybe it’s a bit of everything and great hydration!

Hello, I am 22 years old and I’ve been reading information on this site about these supplements and have been taking daily for a week now:
Zinc 50mg
Sunflower Lecithin 1200 mg daily
L - Arginine 10000 mg daily
Swanson Brand Phygeum 250mg

And in 3 days in since I’ve started I have stopped producing precum at all. My loads have also become a lot smaller but more slightly thick in feeling and jelly-like. I am curious if there is something I am doing wrong. Yesterday I started taking the Phygeum twice a day, one in the mornings with the other supplements and another during the evening time of the night before bed. Hopefully to try give a positive effect. I also have been very proactive about drinking plenty of water during the day so I am a bit shocked to experience no longer having precum no matter what I do. It is the sole reason I stared these supplements so I am curious if anyone has had these effects before. I will say though my erections feel a lot better.

But is there something else I can do, should I cut a supplement out of my routine or something? Thank you.

How much water do you drink?


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.75” BPEL; 7.25” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Has this thread actually arrived on a consensus about the holy grail of cum load increase? Or at least a few ingredients that most of you can get behind?

What I see brought up a lot is pygeum.

Do you guys worry about overdosing on Zinc? Also, what do you guys think the mechanism of action is with zinc?

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