Holy Grail of Cum Load Increase

Apologies in advance for the super long first post.

So much information here, big thanks to everyone posting their experience and results. I’m looking to begin my journey here and am seeking the following benefits: EQ, cum volume (duh) orgasm intensity.

I’m about to hit 50y old and my libido has decreased greatly as I’ve gotten older. I’ve been working on getting back in shape/better health recently. I’ve lost 30 pounds 275 down to 245 (6’ in height) have been eating better and exercising daily. I’m not taking any meds currently for any health conditions, although I have gotten a prescription for sildenafil from Roman to help with better erections and lasting longer, it’s totally helped but I’m hoping I don’t need it forever and that getting in shape will help in that aspect. I’ve thought about TRT but haven’t done anything there so far.

I’m hoping that I may get some double benefits from the supplements that will help my fitness progress as well as blasting my wife with thick loads with a rock solid cock. She doesn’t know about the sildenafil, but has commented about how hard I’ve been recently, she’s been enjoying that aspect very much.

After reading through almost every page, I have the following list of ingredients loaded up in my shopping cart at piping rock ready to go:

(All are piping rock house brand)
L Arginine 1000mg & Citrulline 500mg
Cal 1000mg/mag 400mg & zn15mg
Soy Lecithin non GMO 1200mg
Pygeum 4000mg
Maca 1600mg
Boron 3mg

Looking at this it seems like a lot of pills to be taking, but some people on here have a laundry list of 10+ ingredients. Any advice on what to take together and what time of day? I’ve read that some aren’t good to take together because your body can only absorb so much. I added the boron to help with retaining the cal/mag based on some advice I found here.

All of these are pills, would powders be better? Should I start more slowly with only a couple supplements to see how I react and add others in later? Or should I go all in? Are there any missing ingredients that would tie it all together? I left out selenium because others stated it decreased volume for them. Some have also stated they take zinc separately from magnesium because they complete for absorption. Should I switch the combo cal/mag/zinc pill to separates?

I have so many questions.
Thank you for you patience if you just read all that.

I don’t see any zinc in your list. Zinc is a cum load staple.

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He does mention 15mg of zinc.

My input is just… the stack i just a basic support tool. I think the real cum increase comes from staying healthy overall and excitement in the moment, and than these tools kick in. I am an advocate for Swedish Pollen Flower on top of the classic stack, and yes, I take Lecithin-Zinc-Pygmeum on top of many other supplements. Te supplements available to use these days are amazing for many things, not just this singular purpose. I’ll never get why people with swallowing a handful of pills but can chomp down a Wendy’s burger in less than a minute… :-D

With the exception of ejaculating less, after years of experimentation I’ve come to the conclusion that it is impossible to increase your semen volume. However, there are various things to avoid that may otherwise negatively impact your semen volume/sperm health. In the end, a healthy lifestyle will go a long way. DM for tips on how I achieve my results. (I’ve abandoned the stack)

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It has not been a full day even and I am already seeing results. I am using Zinc 50mg, Pygeum 800 mg, Lecithin 2400 mg, L Arginine 1500 mg. It was one day since my last orgasm, roughly 6 hours before I took anything. It all arrived in the mail last night around 5:30 pm so I took everything before bed.

I woke up and went to the gym did my normal routine and took the dosage again with breakfast. Five hours later after getting turned on and ignoring the boner for 10 or so minutes I went to check it out in the bathroom. I was already leaking precum which was a surprise to me as I never just leak, and holly crap after about 5 min in I had produced more precum than I ever have before without even edging. I noticed my dick was insanely hard and feeling a lot better than normal as well as appearing more vascular. The load amount was normal, but I wouldn’t assume overnight I would gain a lot, so I am giving that at least 3 weeks to expect real results.

I am 23 though and have done a bit of research but just want to make sure that keeping up with these supplements won’t have a negative impact on personal health. As long as I keep up with hydration, proper vitamins and good eating habits ect.

I was also curious about if any of these supplements react to a drug test? I know it is a weird question, but I am military and was wondering if anyone had any knowledge on that and or experience. I am sure it’s a dumb question considering these are not actual drugs, but I have been told by superiors to watch out on our supplements because some can cause you to piss hot on amphetamines. Some pre-workouts for example will cause it.

Thanks so much! -Joe

What did you avoid?

Hey mate, glad you are getting great results.

The best advice I can give is to maybe do a 10 day on, and 2 days off cycle to prevent your body from acclimating to the supplements.
Otherwise, glad to get further confirmation that this stack is working well for another person!

Also if you get stomach cramps, maybe take a break for a bit to be sure what might be causing issues in your stack plan.

But as I understand, none of these will cause a drug test to show positive.. Your Testosterone production might be a little higher from the Zinc, but I doubt it will show up as doping on a drug test. But I am not a doctor, just going off of internet research on each of these supplements!

Cheers!

Does the body actually acclimate to the supplements? I’d figure they don’t really need an on/off cycle and would continue having the same effect. Vitamins and minerals never give me the impression of things that need to be cycled.

Essential nutrients such as minerals, vitamins, amino acids and fatty acids do not need to be cycle. Quite the opposite, they must be present in the diet every single day. That is why they are labeled “essential”

Some herbs and extracts need to be cycled specially if they influence the endocrine system.

I’ve always wondered that too. Thanks for clarifying, iggi. Fkjb.

My anectodal, subjective experience:

I am middle-aged, I learned about the HG stack some weeks ago, so I ordered the stuff, replacing L.Arginine with L-Citruline

Daily dose: 1-2x L-Citruline, 1-2x Swanson Pygeum, 1-2x s.f. Lecithin, and I cut zinc to taking 2x 12.5mg since I consider 50mg too much. I also take copper.

I am taking this for 2 weeks now, along with ok diet and (I think) plenty of water.

—->> I do *surprisingly* NOT see the results I expected, as I expected monster amounts of precum and much bigger loads.

NO.

-> I do notice that cum is sticker/thicker, and shiny white, but definitely not more volume.

-> Whether Pygeum decreases libido was one concern, I can’t 100% answer that. I think I notice I think less about sex, so I could say I am less horny, but WHEN I am horny then I get *really* horny.

-> What amazed me most is that I didn’t see the amounts of precum and overal volume I expected, since I *normally* and naturally already have PLENTY of precum.

The last week “experimenting” with this was pathetic in terms of volume.

I’ll continue this and observe, but if it keeps like that there is simply no reason (for me) to take this. Just cum sticky and gooey is no reason for me to take these supplements.

ANECTODAL EXPERIENCE:

Before I even heard about this stack I took Piping Rock “Men’s Mega Multiple”, this was before I even knew about the fun benefits of zinc, lecithin, pygeum etc.
The Piping Rock Multivitamin has tons of vitamins (incl. Zinc, selenium) as well as proprietary mixes of Amino Acids and ALL the ingredients of the HG stack (!) in their “men’s special blend”. I am not related to them, so please see what I write as my own, subjective experience.

It was back then where I *believe* I took this multivitamin that I had insane cumshots and insane amounts of precum. There could have been other triggers (as general mood etc. DOES absolutely play a role, so the basics need to be right), but in hindsight I attribute this possibly to this multivitamin. Which, in a sense is strange, as for example their “special men’s blend” Pumpkin Seed (Curcurbita pepo) (seed), Pygeum (Pygeum africanum) (bark), Saw Palmetto (Serenoa repens) (fruit), Tribulus Extract (fruit) (Standardized to contain 45% saponins), Muira Puama Extract (Ptychopetalum olacoides) (root)

That’s contained in the pills is only 60mg per pill, 120mg per dosis. MUCH LESS than if someone takes the HG Stack. This is why I am so surprised not seeing any results from it.

PS: When I had these mega cum shoots, best day was 7x “like out of a firehose”, very watery (but this is the fluid which makes the volume) and “shooting” over 3ft. Absolutely amazing.

This makes me believe it could be interesting combining the HG stack and this multivitamin, ie cycling 1 day this, the next that.

** I was also made aware by someone that their “special blend” contains saw palmetto, and here the opinions also differ whether it would kill libido or boosts it. Remembering back, I don’t think it lowered my libido.

TLDR: I am not seeing the results I expected from the HG stack.

Thanks for answering. That clears things up for me.

In another post I mentioned that I take one swanson capsule 400 mg with 6.5% phytosterols once a week and that produces plenty of precum for me when excited or edging or even just kegeling. How much is plenty? I can leak a small drop every 15 to 20 seconds when I am aroused and doing kegels.

I typically ejaculate once a day after hours of low intensity edging. And while my spurts are strong and pleasurable, they are kind of watery, so I am adding the daily 1200 mg sunflower lecithin again. I tried it a couple of years ago but stopped after my ejaculations became almost too thick and clumpy and did not shoot as strongly. It felt good, but just not as good. Maybe this time..

Also I am thinking of trying Damiana.

I just want to add:

Initially I did pygeum daily and it worked, but it felt like diminishing returns. Then I went to once a month, then twice a month with still more than my typical precum. Once a week feels like a sweet spot with much more precum than the monthly or bimonthly dose. I am curious to try twice a week and see if there are diminishing returns there. Yeah, I want more! Isn’t that why we are all here?

I am taking the Swanson capsules with 125mg 4:1 extract (Bark) in each, so comes to 250mg (equal 1000mg Pygeum) per dosis.

It is slightly confusing since there are different variants of the Swanson pygeum, the one you @berbrauchen is talking about is the one that contains 400mg bark and 100mg of the extract. Which one of these is “better” I have no idea.

Since I am not seeing the results I expected I am wondering about the right dosage.

Here page 1 in this thread they say “Pygeum 100mg strength taken 2x daily = 200mg”. WHICH Pygeum? Extract? Raw bark? That being said, 100mg or 200mg even seems awfully low given that all these pills have 400-500mg etc. “100mg” doesn’t even make sense.

If I look at my extract and I take 2x per day (equal 1000mg!), then how comes I don’t see any result from it, why some people claim 200mg is all they need?