L-Arginine or L-Arginine AAKG

I am going to try L-Arginine to increase my sperm production (bigger loads).

On the web I found 2 kinds of L-Arginine:
The normal L-Arginine (1000mg)
And Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate (AAKG) (1000mg)

The (AAKG) is supposed to work better from what I have read.

1. Who can tell me the difference between those and which one works better? (Did anyone try this?)

2. And how much am I supposed to take daily?

I am posting this in the wrong section I know. But I can’t post in the supplements forum.

Different forms of Arginine pass through your intestinal membranes more readily due to slightly different molecular composition (thus molecular stability). The addition of extra chemical compounds (Alpha Ketoglutarate) given the Arginine a “custom” effect.

Personally, i’ve found the best absorption (and best effect) comes from Ethyl Ester Arginine - which I stack for body building.

I once read a rough guide which suggested that an effective dose of standard L-Arginine was approximately 8-12g per serving, an effective dose of Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate was 2-4g and Ethyl Ester Arginine 0.5-3g

hope this helps.

Thanks that helped.

I was thinking of getting these:
Http://www.supersmart.com/en—Arginine-Alpha-Ketoglutarate-(AKG)-1000-mg—Amino-acids—0160

What do you think of that?

I am having a very hard time finding this stuff in the netherlands. I have found some but they only have 500mg capsules which means I could not last a week with one bottle (taking 3g-5g a day). That would be very expensive.

Or this:

I just don’t know what is best

I’d almost definitely advise against buying high dosage amino acids in capsule form, bulk powder is always the way to go. Mix it in with a drink - doesn’t taste great but it does the job and it’s cheap.

something like this:

or:

http://www.bulk nutrition.com/? … roducts_id=1545

http://www.bulk nutrition.com/? … roducts_id=1839

500g 3g per day (1g taken 20 minutes before each meal)

= 166.6 doses close to 1/2 a year. Also remember to cycle Arginine as it’s easy to build up a tolerence: 2 weeks on 1 week off, or 2 months on 1 month off; whatever you feel like doing really :)

Thanks man you are really helping me out.

I guess I will give this a try.

Did it work for you by the way?
Did you see any change in amount of sperm?

I did, also better erections, more frequent erections, bigger muscle pumps, shorter recovery time; the list is quite big - sure you get the idea. Up your Zinc dosage also: 30mg daily (200% RDA) this should help - aswell as doing kegel exercises.

I ordered the Ethyl Ester Arginine you mentioned in the link above.
Tomorrow I will go to the local shop and get me some zinc as you advised.
I hope this stuff works for me. Can’t wait :)

Should I start with a small dosage of arginine and then build it up, or can I just start with 3g (1g 3 times a day)?

I am very curious about how the arginine works for me. I have been reading a lot of positive reactions on thundersplace. But there are also some people saying the arginine did not work at all. Maybe because they did not take enough or because they were taking capsules.

Thanks again for your help.

Too much Arginine upsets my stomach, i’d definitely ramp it up - start with a small dosage (around 500mg) and increase until you see effect or it upsets your stomach.

You’ll probably want to get yourself a set of digital scales - I really don’t trust scoops to do my measuring for me.

LammeHaas,

Do post your experience and findings in regards to the Ethyl Ester Arginine. Thanks.

I may consider this also in the near future.

I will let you know how it works and what it did or not did for me.

I am now waiting for it to arrive. It left the USA yesterday now it is on it’s way to The Netherlands, hope it arrives tomorrow.

Ok I have been using it for a week now. I take 3g a day, 1g three times a day on an empty stomach.

This is what it did so far:

* When soft it is much larger, thicker and heavier.
* It becomes erect more quickly and easily.

I was hoping it would increase the volume of my cum, but so far it has not changed at all. The only thing changed is the color of the sperm. It is very white now (like milk). But it is not thicker, thinner, more or less.

Some guy said to me that it can take 2 weeks to see any changes.

I will keep taking the arginine and report back next week. Hoping I will have a bigger load by then.

Does anyone know of a good European site that offers Ethyl Ester Arginine with shipping to Norway? I once tried to order some kind of magic pills but they were returned since Norway doesn’t allow non-EU pharmaceuticals, or something like that. Hopefully someone knows what I’m talking about.

Remember. Water, liquid, H2O.

Aparently taking Citrulline Malate is more effective at increasing blood Arginine levels than Arginine itself. Has anyone tried it?