Tongkat Ali - full or empty stomach

How do you guys suggest to take TA on an empty of full stomach, what dosage and on-off period?

Thanks

DG

Empty-20-30 days on. 10-15 days off. Dosage varies by person, but 2-3 times a day.

Pepper

Is a 5 on 2 off cycle, 2 pills a day not good?

In some people 5 days is not enough time for it to increase testosterone production. However, if you feel it working right away (1-2 days) then you could conceivably use it with that 5 on 2 off schedule. As far as dosage, I don’t know if your using the extract or the whole root, and if your taking the extract what ratio (50:1) (200:1)? How many mgs is your pill? I’m assuming you want to use the 5 on, 2 off for PE.

Pepper

Hey Doc! What is your experience with Tongat? I tried a couple 5 days with 50:1 and saw no changes at all, maybe I’m one of those that need to cycle longer.

Why on an empty stomach? Also, I’m just going with apx 800-1000 mg dose, once a day…whats your take on that? By the way, I’m taking the powder (disgusting taste!).

I’m taking tablets, the label states:
Tongkat Ali Extract 1:50
Serving Size: 2
Servings per container: 50
Amount per Serving: 800mg

It suggests to take 2 to 3 tablets a day with the largest meal, what are your suggestions/directions?

Thanks

What is this tongkat ali , food supplement or what ?

Spark,

This stuff works similiar to how the drug HCG works by encouraging the Leydigs cells in the testes to produce more testosterone. Also some feel it may increase free testosterone by binding to SHBG in the blood and “freeing up” previously bound testosterone. Either way, if an individual could find the right dose it should work. Keep in mind, that the body has negative feedback loops and will use various pathways to bring testosterone levels back down to normal after 2-4 weeks. Hence the need for cycling the herb. At least twice a day dosing is necessary to keep blood levels of the compound elevated. Most herbs are better assimilated on an empty stomach. Some people use 2-3x the recommended dose. Also keep in mind that the increased testosterone will be broken down into both of it’s metabolites (estrogen and DHT) so if you feel tingling in your nipples that’s estrogen, and hair loss would be DHT. Your testes may increase in size to accomadate the extra activity, if they start to ache that means they are working to hard and are not happy about it.

Pepper

Thanks Pepper!

What should I expect from it?

I’m not training (besides some running two to three times a week) and not dieting (well, pretty on the opposite side of “dieting”.).

Now it’s a week of a serving (two tablets) twice a day on empty stomach.

Thank you all

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What should I expect from it?
I’m not training (besides some running two to three times a week) and not dieting (well, pretty on the opposite side of “dieting”.).
Now it’s a week of a serving (two tablets) twice a day on empty stomach.
Thank you
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If you’ve found the right dose and your testosterone levels are increased then you should notice higher sex drive, more confidence and more aggression. If you don’t notice theses things then your not taking enough. Of course all this is assuming that the product your taking is legitimate.

Pepper

Is it OK to take Damiana and TA at the same time?

I’m not positive when to take TA, but I always took it 10 minutes or more before my meals.

As for dosage, I use to take up to 3 grams a day, 5 days on, two days off. What you want to do is to gradually work your way up and when you are starting to run out of it, gradually lower your doseage. You don’t want to go from taking 3 grams a day to not taking anything for weeks (or until you get your new bottle of TA).

This is just my experience.

DR Pepper….

What do you think about Tribulus? I find I get about the same effects from it than I do with Tongat, and I can get it far cheaper.

In all fairness though, I’ve only been taking about 1000 mg of Tongat a day, so I may have not reached an effective dose of it. My body wt is about 210 lbs.

Toward that last week of my last Tongat cycle, I added Tribulus to it, and it “seemed” to work better. I say “seemed” because I have yet to get any real definitive results from either yet, other than a “possible” bump of libido and larger ejaculate volumn….but even that is a subjective assessment.

Like I said, it may well be because I am below an effect dose level in both of them…I’d love to get your input on this.

Thanks in advance!

I have been taking Indonesian Tongkat Ali (Pasak Bumi) from tongkatali.com and find that I get the best results taking small doses of the 50:1 extract. The dosages you guys are taking is very high. I take 200mg a day 5 days a week, with 2 days off. Find it works for me better than in high dosage.