Using Timacle (Chiococca alba) to aid lig stretching

I spent some time researching the possibility of using DMSO to aid in stretching ligaments (see Monty: - DMSO and hanging). I think it would be probably be effective, but it was just a bit too risky for me. However, in my research I came across an herb called Timacle (Chiococca alba) that is supposed to have the effect of making ligaments more stretchy.

You can read more about the herb, available in tincture and topical cream form, at this site: http://www.natu ral-safe-hormon … lity-cream.html . Apparently people use it to increase flexibility for stuff like Yoga. I spoke to the owner of this site and she confirmed that the effects are temporary and that your ligs will return to their prior state after a day or two, aside from any permanent stretching you induce while using the herb. After going back and forth I finally ordered the cream and I plan to give it a try (using extreme caution, of course). Since this herb has only been mentioned in one post on this entire site (Monty: - DMSO and hanging), I’m curious if anyone else has tried it?

It may be a while until I know enough to make any comments on it’s effectiveness, but I’ll report back eventually. FWIW, my routine consists of pumping/light jelquing/ADS (w/ a 9oz weight).

Would love to hear your results.

The cream was absolutely the right way to go, as the tincture would have just diluted throughout your whole system.

Sounds really exciting I had no clue such a thing existed. I look forward to hearing your findings! Though please be careful.

The plan is to start on Monday. I’ll probably just start with some light jelquing on Monday, see how I feel, and progress little by little from there. I’ll keep you posted…

You are not going to use it as lube to jelq, are you? Sounds like it could be used to aid some intense stretching and then throw the ADS on for several hours afterwards. Good luck.

Heck no! This stuff is $35 (delivered) for about 2oz!

I’ll put a pretty small amount around the ligs at the base and a very thin layer along the topside of my unit and see how that works. The effects supposedly last a day or two, so I’ll probably use it no more than twice a week for the time being.

I just subscribed to this thread. I really want to see where it goes.

I went ahead and started today. I cut myself pretty good near the base of my shaft while shaving last night, so jelquing and pumping are out for today. That being the case I figured I’d start using it today and then just throw on the ADS. So far I can’t tell a difference, but I don’t imagine it would be anything I’d feel immediately.

If I had to guess, I think it would go like this. Being herbal, there probably won’t be any dramatic, or even noticeable, effects. I’m guessing it’ll end up being safe enough to use every other day and then just work out as usual. If it works, I may gain a bit more over the course of a few months than I would have otherwise. Having said that, I can’t take anything for granted. I’m starting very slowing on the off chance that it does have an unexpectedly dramatic effect. I probably won’t know for months if it’s even worth using, but I’ll try to keep this thread updated with any observations.

One bit of good news is that I can already tell that 2 oz. will last months. Takes a bit of the sting out of the steep price, especially if it works.

Dont think that would make a change.

bigger-8inchM!

Too early to tell for sure, but I think I may be reaching fatigue a little faster on the days I apply the cream. That could be a good sign. I’ll keep you posted…

Alright much thanks man.

Thanks for the research. There are a lot of items in nature that we don’t know about. This may be one of them.

I’m in a similar situation and would like to stretch mine as well.A heat lamp may help. Keep posting.

Good luck okc, keep us posted on how the cream works.

Yes, I second that, keep us posted.

I can say with some certainty that within about 20 min of applying the cream I have a feeling of fatigue in my ligs. Whether that feeling translates into increased gains, I can’t say. I just recently started on the routine I’m using so I don’t really have a baseline for comparison, unfortunately. Right now I’m doing 2x20min sets of pumping (5 days on, 2 days off) and then ADS’ing for an average of about 8 hours a day everyday.

At this point I think I’ve been using it long enough to feel pretty safe about it. I wouldn’t apply it every day (yet), but there have been times I have used it two days in a row. After working up to it I’ve essentially been working out at 100%. As long as you are an experienced PE’er, start slow and work up, and pay close attention to your PI’s, I think it’s relatively safe.

It would be tremendously helpful if someone who has an established baseline for their current routine could test this out. I’m not currently hanging due to circumstances, but I think this would be ideal for those who hang as part of their routine. Just be careful. Any takers?