Can You Guys believe this Drug?!?

DAMN! I AM right about dopamine! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

:kisskiss: :dance:

Very hot post too, that, thank you

Your very welcome my fine fish oiled friend:)

Oh BTW Zaneblue - the other day in lieu of taking the cabergoline I took 8 Super EPA gels, as per your suggestion. I didn’t feel anything out of the ordinary. Maybe it only works on people who have a kind of deficiency? Or over time? Anyway, later on I took my cabergoline dose and was once again happy.

Strike three! I’m starting to think maybe men are more like women than I think, at least serotonin-wise. It’s a delicate balance for both. One cup of coffee shoots 80% of the effect for me; my spontaneous orgasms vanish.

One thing I do know, and thank you Dino—I know now that men are like women when it comes to dopamine, from the description in this thread. And that’s a very good and cheerful thing!

I missed the logic behind your conclusion, Zaneblue.?!?

He felt loving feelings. Made my week. Men and women are the same. I was worried that somehow love and sex were completely disconnected, that dopamine in men, unlike women, just made them want pussy. But now I know we’re the same.

I’m starting to think that my strike-outs on this board, unlike men who usually try the fish oil, might be due to something in the bodybuilding stacks men here take. Dino do you take bodybuilding herbs/drugs?

This is really funny.

Maybe there is some aort of “hate” pill that could be popped as well to counter-balance this unwanted, “loving” side effect? :) Just a thought.

Zane

I only take vitamins and amino’s when working out.

commanderblop

I’m glad you got a kick out of that it scared the poop out of me though:)

This is not uncommon.

What in God’s bloodiest nightmare are you talking about?

You make these statements about men like we’re these unemotional sexually driven automatons - but thank God for dopamine, because now we can have feelings too.

I have to be honest it’s crazy-making. Men have feelings. Lots of feelings. An artificially induced rush of dopamine might give Dino the illusion of loving feelings (as well as a resolute cock), but it’s good to see he knows the difference.

Love does not come from a chemical reaction. It has to do with our spirit, our soul. The chemical reaction takes place in our bodies to facilitate the physical experience for the soul. Anything else is just better living through chemistry: a manipulation.

Also: it’s not good to tell someone you love them if it isn’t really true. The follow-up conversation is real bitch.

“Yeah… I know I said that, but you gotta understand: I was high on Dostinex, I didn’t know what I was saying. I’m really very sorry, you really are a very nice girl, but I’m not really in love with you.”

What a pain in the ass for everyone!

Men are not unfeeling. We don’t always attach the same significance to sex that women do. It’d be impractical with the amount of testosterone floating around in us.

But we can be very sensitive and dialed-in to a woman if it’s right.

There’s nothing like it.

Why are you suddenly relieved that this is true, and some kind of major revelation to boot, because Dino popped some pharmaceuticals to get his groove on?

I’m having a hard time with this logic too.

We could call it Dopa-mean. The tablet for those who love to hate.

Women could take it to - as an aid to PMS.

My friend, did Depock ASTRAL PROJECT into you and posses you again? If so we could fix that with a young priest or a new priest, err …no I mean an old nihilist and a new nihilist.;)

I love to drink for free, but you don’t see me dipping my frank and beans into a Russian Quaalude just yet.;)

Just busting balls my friend.

Well I don’t want to veer this thread more than I already have, but the short answer is this. Yes of course men have feelings, but I’ve been worried for some years now that men’s feelings were disconnected from sexual desire and sexual pleasure. Look at it from my point of view—all my life I was brought up, everything in our culture that girls are exposed to gives a very wrong impression about how men truly are, what they want and how they love. That’s why men don’t like chick flicks, because they are based on a lie. So realizing all that was a lie, I wasn’t sure what was still true, because I’m not a guy myself. It wasn’t that my ex-husband didn’t have strong passionate feelings for me—even up until the end he had very strong passionate feelings of wanting to control—I was lucky I was even able to get my divorce. But those feelings didn’t extend into the bedroom. And I’m not stupid, sure I knew that feelings of love get old and when they do men and women start looking around sexually. But I kept coming across men, me being the “other woman,” who were madly in love with women but still very very interested in giving me a good pronging. And also came across a lot of bisexual men online talking about how crazy in love with their wives they were, and yet they weren’t very interested in having sex with them and preferred to sneak around with men. So I honestly have been thinking that sex and feelings of love are disconnected in men.

I have very high dopamine and am both passionate and horny. It’s not been that I’ve been interested in men’s feelings because I want to be loved, it’s that I’ve wanted good sex. I guess the closest analogy is to a man who has found out that his wife has been faking orgasms for ten years, and then they get divorced and the women he starts to date all fake orgasms and he reads online about women faking orgasms and he starts to think all women fake orgasms, and then he doesn’t want to have sex anymore. Men want to feel the women they are with are genuinely into the sex, at least most men do. I’m the same way.

And I’m not saying that I expect dopamine will make men fall in love, hell no. When I’ve felt passion during sex it’s been for a man who wasn’t in the room. Of course the feelings Dino was feeling were biochemical, but all feelings are biochemical and at least I now know that it’s the same chemical for sex and love for men, like it is for women. Now of course even men with low dopamine will want sex if they have high free T, but I can already tell the difference. Which also explains the men lately—I am attracted to men with high dopamine so of course they start to have feelings for me.

That wasn’t a very short answer, was it.

No it wasn’t. And it is rife with convolutions that we’ve all come to know and enjoy.

Chick flicks are a lie?

You’ve regained your faith in the love of men because of dopamine?

You were worried about sex & love being disconnected in men. Yet you’ve also been complaining that men are falling for you when you when you don’t want them to - long before this thread. So clearly they can fall. Perhaps you don’t want that, or perhaps you don’t trust it because of your continued shell-shock from the relationship with your ex.

The ‘disconnect’ men have is that not all sex leads to love. Sometimes we’re thinking about person ‘A’ while nailing person ‘B’. Just like you described yourself as doing with whoever was in the room while you were fantasizing about whoever was out of the room. This is not passion - it’s function. Men and women both are capable of this.

Men and women are different, but no SO different that there aren’t common emotinal themes running through our lives. The differences seem to be those of emphasis. Women tend to be a bit more careful about who they sleep with and attach greater significance to the act, usually wanting it to be connected to deeper feelings: not all the time, but in general. Men tend to be more interested in hooking up for it’s own sake but a little more guarded when it comes to real feelings: again, not in every case, but frequently.

Love is not a solveable chemical equation. There is no formula.
Even in the purest scientific or psychological terms there are no real explanations ( unless of course we are manipulating such things through recreational drug-use). There may be certain interactions that take place in the brain that we can measure, but the why of these things transpiring remains a part of life’s mystery.

Otherwise you could just wear pheremones and feed people salmon and they’d fall in love with you.

In other news:

Dostinex sounds pretty cool as a sex aid.

That’s my plan. :flame:

Sure I know guys have feelings. Just wasn’t sure they were directly connected with sex, and more particularly with dopamine. Now I know. That’s all I wanted to know.

To be frank, it’s not that I care about whom the guy is thinking about, as long as he’s thinking about someone. I was worried men weren’t, that’s all. It creeped me out.

I find it hard to believe that sex can be disconnected to feelings. Personally I cannot have sex with someone that I do not have feelings towards. To me, sex is the most powerful and intense feeling that you can have with someone.