Ejaculate or not to ejaculate?

I’ve been working on orgasming without ejaculating. I’ve managed to have small tiny little orgasms without ejaculating. Until tonight, I tried something I read about years ago, I can’t remember where.

I take my free hand and poke down under the ball sack and more or less cut off the flow from there. This did work, and I had a full orgasm without ejaculating.

Is this a safe method?

It could lead to a dangerously high level of kundalindi.

Are you saying you grab your scrotum, just above your dangling balls, and squeeze it tightly, to “cut off flow”?

Just curious about what you mean by “poke down under the ball sack”…

Cdr.Blop

He means he pushes up on the area between his balls and his anus and compresses the urethra. I suspect this causes a retrograde ejaculation (into his bladder). Not quite the thing you’re looking for Pud. (search for it with Avocet8 as the author)

Pud, if you have been abstaining from ejaculating for the purpose of enhancing your sexual energy(Taoism), I believe the method you speak of causes some energy loss. When the fluid goes into the pipe it has to go somewhere, the key would be seperating the processes of orgasm and ejaculating, which is tricky because they happen what seems to be together.

Yes. The idea of saving the seed.

You are not harmed physically by having a retrograde ejaculation. By pressing on the ‘million dollar point’ you are indeed compressing your urethra and the semen does travel into your body. You lose less energy than by ejaculating coventionally, as some of the semen is absorbed back into your body, but you do lose energy. Much of your ejaculate will be pissed out.

You want to orgasm without ejaculating at all. You sound like you are on the right track. What is your approach?

Apart from forcing a retrograde ejaculation…

Yes, Mr. Happy, I love the book you reccomended. I just haven’t soaked it all in yet.

“Million dollars” as in you save that much by not getting the girl/wife pregnant? :rofl:

Pud,

I have been working with nonejaculatory sex for a few years and consider pressing on the "million dollar point" to prevent ejaculation a last resort option when I’ve gone over the edge already. This is not seperating ejaculation from orgasm this way only redirecting where the semen goes. Basically keeping it within your body rather than sending it out. Having orgasm without ejaculation is a much different thing which takes some time to cultivate and tune into your body.

There is an excellent audio CD on the subject called "Male Multiple orgasm, step by step guide" which I actual found out about on this site. Its a somewhat unsual method by means of making a particular sound called the "key sound" but I have found it to be quite effective and easy to practice. Ive been practicing Toaist techniques for years but find this method simpler. Actually both methods combined are excellent.

You can order the audio CD and check out reviews from Amazon at this address http://www.amaz on.com/exec/obi … 9588641-2387859

Excellent.

Tsuga, is the ‘key sound’ about creating a trigger for you to focus on.

I’m intrigued.

Thanks guys,

I think I’m going to look into that method Tsuga. That sounds very interesting, and even though last night was the first time I used my hand to hold back the ejaculation. It always was right there on the surface.

I can stop myself from ejaculating by doing a really hard kegel in the middle of an orgasm till I don’t feel like cuming anymore but the orgasm sucks and I don’t think it’s very good for me so I don’t ever do it

Mr Happy

I dont think of the key sound as a trigger to focus on, rather more of a method to intutively seperate ejaculation from orgasm. For a long time I never thought of the two as seperate. If you orgasmed you ejaculated, if you ejaculated you orgasmed, all the same thing.

You actually practice the key sound seperate from sex, at least for a while. I cant actually say I fully understand how it works nor do I particularly care to know the mechanics of it. What I experience and understand is that practicing the sound seems to awaken a visceral body awareness that begins to seperate orgasm from ejaculation. I would practice the key sound one day and then on another day when I was making love with my wife I would sort of feel my way into low level orgasms without ejaculation. Something in my body was awakened by the practice of the sound. If I make the sound during sex, which fits right in, it doesnt feel out of place all, I find the build up of energy that brings you to ejaculation is for the most part dissipated. I find it also keeps me low in my body. Part of building up to ejaculation is, increased heart rate, shallower breathing, body tension, and moving up higher into the chest. Its like the sound diffuses this to a large degree.

If you go to the amazon.com link in my previous post there are quite a few reviews of it. Its interesting, all most all of the reviews except I think two give it a five star rating. The two or three that dont basically trash the method. Those two reviews really remind me of people that trash PE. Personally my dick is longer and thicker, I know it works, I dont care what others say, their loss. Same with this, I dont care what the couple of bad reviews say, my experience is similar to all the rave reviews. I mention the reviews as I think it will help get a better feel of what its about.

If you have more questions, ask away, I’ll try to answer them the best I can.

By the way, does anyone know what happened to the spell checker feature for posting messages? It doesnt appear as an option anymore. I’m an abysmal speller and really depended on it. Is there any chance I turned it off accidentally or is it just not there anymore?

We are all suffering from the death of the spell checker Tsuga. Not sure when it will be brought back to life.

Well Thunder, I guess my aproximately fifth grade spelling level will finally be revealed, kind of sad for a fifty year old man, or I’ll write my posts in Microsoft Word and then post them.