Kegel - the secret revealed

I read this and became confused. So to kegel or not to kegel is the question…

I think the OP was clarifying the muscle involved and benefits of kegel exercises. I don’t have any scientific support, but my personal experience has been more powerful ejaculation and more semen after incorporating kegels into my routine. Maybe this supports his point.

Does research show that when doing kegels you are working a muscle group? If so, then yes, you should kegel because it is strengthening both the primary muscle (whichever it is) and also secondary muscles in that group. Some muscles are difficult to target so you have to work the group.

Guys I’m reading all your posts here, and I tend to scratch my head over the disbelief in Kegel exercises! They have been proven to work both for women and men.

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Copy/paste from reddit

" Ischiocavernosus (IC muscle) cured my PE,ED and low libido
Hi there. Want to get this out to as many desperate people out there as possible. So I found this subreddit and decided to copy my post here aswell. Here is my post from erectiledysfunction subreddit:

"I am here to help as many guys out there as possible. What I am doing fixes the problems for me. It may or may not help you aswell. But you should try out my suggestions and will find out on day 1, if you have this problem or not.

Do you also have lifelong ED or partial ED, PE and bad erection angle? Have you tried kegels bit they did not help in the long run? Do you always tense part of your pelvic floor during masturbation and your problems got slowly worse during the last years or decades.

You may have the same issue that I have! If that is the case, there is an easy fix if you know exactly what to focus on. You have to find your IC muscle, which may be very difficult the first 2-3 times!

Why are Kegels not helping me or maybe you? => if you have a muscle dysbalance in the pelvic floor, your IC muscle may be extremely weak. It is keeping the blood inside the penis, thus holding erection,and increases erection angle. You PC and BC muscles are probably so strong, that they partly take over the work for the IC… BUT THEY DO A VERY BAD JOB! If you kegel and have a very low muscle tone of the IC ( i talk from my experience solely) it is nearly impossible to flex it. The IC gets trained first a little, but the PC and BC are alway getting much more stonger. The result: Erection quality first increases in first week, then stays the same and keeps decreasing again.

What I had to do: Find the IC muscle and isolate it. Relax the BC and PC. they already are overly strong, so no more regular kegels.

How I found it: If you flex the IC muscle, the penis twitches or is pulled inwards slightly. When erect or partially erect, the IC makes the penis jump up. But beware! If you flex more, the weak IC muscle does not get flexed more. Instead you only increase the tension in the BC muscle and you will only THINK that you flex the IC stronger. It is very very difficult to differentiate these two muscles because they are so close to each other. Especially when the muscle is weak, you will not know the sensation of flexed IC. What I did was doing something like a mini kegel. Only tighten your pelvic floor so ridiculessly weak, that you only feel a slight sensation beside or directly on top of your penis base, where it comes out of the pelvis. Dont tense so hard, that you feel your pelvic floor moving. Keep the very slight tension. You may think that you only imagine some feeling above your penis when holding the weak tension. This is because the IC is so weak, that you dont even register it flexing. I doubted that I flexed any muscle at all, until that happened: If you keep the tension around 30-40 seconds, your penis may shake uncontrollably in- and outwards when the IC becomes weak.

Congratulation. You just found your IC maybe for the very first time. see how ridiculessly weak it is? If you did what I wrote and experienced just the same, this is the muscle that you have to focus on!

What happened to me on day 1: uncontrollable hard erection for the very first time after doing 5 minutes of IC Flexing. I did not even have ro flex the pelvic floor. It simply stood by itself and was harder and fleshier at the same time…. BINGO! found you, lazy "mothafucka" muscle ;-). If the same applies to you, you will probably register sudden improvement within only a few minutes after these "experiment"! It is really a heureca moment… And it made me literally cry out of joy at that moment.

Afterwards I did a lot of tests the next days to see what helps. The improvements I mention are kicking in DIRECTLY after training.. Not hours, but minutes! I did only 1 of these tests on one day, 2 days apart just to ve sure.

IC training only: VERY BIG IMPROVEMENT

Reverse kegel only: SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT

RK + IC training: BEST IMPROVEMENT!

KEGEL training: NO IMPROVEMENT AT ALL

So reverse kegel helped me quite a bit. But after several tests it is clear that my weak IC muscle is the primary reason. It is also clear to me that this muscle became so "hidden" to me, that i nearly never used it…. So it had to become weaker. For the first time of my life I feel this sensation of the IC flexing. You will start to feel it after a training session, when the muscle gets tired. Also after several days of training it gets better and you can really pull your penis inwards srongly.

If your IC gets stronger, you can train with an erection by letting the penis jump (try to not flex the BC muscle, which always happens when you try to flex too strongly) . Also to increase training effect, you can apply resistance by slightly pushing the penis down against the IC flexion. If you lose erection, try to get it up again and repeat. I cannot recommend any training time, but for tge beginning a couple of minutes seem to be enough. You will feel it when this muscle gets worn out and have to decide yourself when to stop.

I was at a business trip in france when I found this out. Trained for 3 weeks. When I came back to my wife, I had so incredible sex… My wife asked me what the hell happened during my busibess trip. She thought that I cheated her. When I told her, she asked me to definetely keep on training :-) . I am still in recovery but every weak the problem gets better. I still cant believe that after all these years I managed to really pull it off… Find that damn reason for my problems.

Thank you, community. Also i want to thank my wife from the bottom of my heart for her warmth and support. She did stay with me although I was a weak 30 seconds man. Find someone that really loves you like my wife does me. Also thanks Paris… You are a beautiful town.

And i dont want to thank the urologists that kept me hanging (literally) ;-) ""

Original thread : https://www.red dit.com/r/PIED/ … y_peed_and_low/

So the IC is where most of the gain is? We work the IC doing towel raises with an erection? What amount of reps and how long to hold? How often to do this routine? Today I did 3 sets of 20 holding 2-3 seconds.

The drawings is something I work on with Jawbone. He got the pictures already to reprint them.

Obafemi: It will be best to wait for pictures. There is so many muscles anybody can find it difficult to separate. It’s like pushing forward from the point 1,5cm behind the pubis but gently, feeling the tension on and in the dorsal part of penis. Again, wait for the pictures please :)