Low Intensity Shockwave Therapy (LiST) for erectile disfunction - is it a scam????

If you google Low Intensity Shockwave Therapy (LiST) you will see that there are many clinics offering this.

Apparently it is amazing for erection quality, but procedures at clinics are very costly.

There is also a product no market where you can buy a device and perform it at home. It costs about 600$.

I won’t link to product, because I don’t want anyone to get idea of me trying to sell anything.

I’m interested in science of this.

This is something new, so are there any studies proving this technique actually works for ED?

So far I found these studies, but can we trust it?
Low-intensity shock wave therapy for erectile dysfunction and the influence of disease duration - PubMed
Low-Intensity Shockwave Therapy (LiST) for Erectile Dysfunction: Is It Safe for Patients on Anticoagulant Medication? - PubMed
https://www.nat ure.com/article … 1443-019-0185-0

Any information, experience would be much appreciated.

It’s a legit treatment option in my experience. Is it a cure? No, as the same influences which created ED are still working in the body.

There are several brands marketed by clinics, Gainswave being one of the more common, but I think they are all the same.

There are many threads here discussing this, including:
Shockwave DIY
Shockwave Therapy

And many, many published articles:

Erectile Dysfunction Treatment With Shockwave Therapy

Also may be of interest:
Fixing my own ED with shockwave therapy: My shockwave machine

Have you seen a doctor about your problem?

I’m thinking of getting this item, but it is pre-order right now and I’m skeptical of its effectivness. If it works like treatments in those clinics and at least improve erection quality by 30% I think it is worth it.

Any skeptics let me know if you smell bullshit
https://www.getmyrocket.com

The literature says it is designed for 24 treatments as the process is very difficult on equipment. I didnt dig through all of the info, but I could not find what the adjustment ranges are (power, Hz, pulse count).

I bought my Lingmei SW5 (I think this is the model) on Alibaba about a year ago for around $1250. I use it regularly and so far have almost 50 treatments totalling about 225,000 pulses with no issues. It has a broad range of adjustment parameters.

This part doesn’t sound good to me. Expect it to break. And the fact that it is pre-order is fishy:
from the FAQ:
"The Rocket has been designed to provide 24 Treatments, more than enough to upgrade your sexual performance. The reason for this is that the mechanism inside the device undergoes extreme mechanical stresses to create the intense energy pulses which make the unit effective. Over time, these stresses wear internal components and after tens of thousands of pulses we can no longer guarantee that the mechanism is able to perform at design specifications. The unit will continue to operate after 24 Treatments, but we recommend purchasing a new Rocket because, as mentioned above, the extremely high energy generated in the device does cause wear on the general components, and we can no longer ensure proper performance with ongoing use. Even our $40,000 devices in our professional E.D. clinic require replacement!"

What positive effects have you noticed from your device?

How much % improvement in erection quality?

Should have included in my post above that my unit is designed for 1,000,000 pulses.

It has other uses, too. My wife recently strained her back and I use my Ultra sound unit first to warm the area up, then use the eswt on a low energy setting. She sees improvement after the treatments.

I have purchased a device and there is no limitations on number of uses. I don’t like the hurry up and purchase now hard sell of that site. To answer your question as to does shockwave work, yes it does. I have seen improved erections and am in the middle of treatment. I have two more weeks of no treatment time and then will start again. Do a search for all post containing shockwave for advice and further info from other posters. Do see a doctor about ED, but also do PE and read everything about diet exercise and supplements to fix libido and ED. Read everything about doing PE and going easy to prevent injury.

How much of an improvement have you noticed?

I need to take the official urology test for accuracy, but I went from maybe 30% firmness to 70%. While not a complete cure my erections are more frequent and harder. I had lost the capability to think myself to an erection, needed direct stimulation. Now I am having intermittent spontaneous erections. I consider my improvement a success well worth the money I spent and I still have more treatments to go. I start my next round of treatments next week. Use the search feature and type shockwave for all the posts that every person has made.

Do you have a link for the device you have?

Here is a link, there are 2 varieties. One has a handheld controller. Mine came without instructions, china company emails it to you.

I did the IIEF questionaire. Before and after everything I have done to fix my ED.

Before / After
A: 9 / 19
B: 10 / 10
C: 2 / 5
D: 3 / 9
E: 2 / 4

Wow, thanks.

What does A B C D E mean?

Where can I fill the questionnaire?

Could you please tell me all the things you have done to improve your ED and which of all things yielded most benefit?