Originally posted by Gottagrow
Firstly, you have not understood my statement. I referred to chi, and you answer with a statement about Reiki. The two are completely different in their effects and aplications.
My apologies. I understood Reiki to be the healing application of Chi. In my quick reading on the subject today I must have gotten confused.
I already stated that Reiki works for the best benefit, and the reason I choose not to use Reiki to aid PE is because it may well be true that I am somehow better off not growing a bigger dick and in which case, Reiki would stop it from growing.
This indicates a belief that you do not control your own destiny, i.e. karma. I believe in one life, good or bad, made that way by one’s own actions.
My destiny will change when I grow a bigger penis because my outlook on life will change and it could lead to anywhere.
Doesn’t this contradict your previous statement? If Reiki knows what’s good for you, why not let if do what’s best by applying it to your PE efforts?
Westla your mind is set on not believing in anything that cannot be explained in scientific terms.
True. I am not a “spiritual” person.
Give me a reason why I would want to continue talking with someone who won't believe one word I speak?
I cannot. Therefore I guess our discussion is finished.
If it works and gets results I start to value it, if it doesn't I have no value for it. But no, of course it must all be in my head. Yes that's it. I want it to be real so I make it real in my head. That is your theory.
No. I’m offering another explanation. I’m not saying that you delude yourself into believing something that is not real. I’m offering an explanation that is an alternative to the guiding of energy via breathing and hand movements. I’m asking if the things you experience couldn’t be caused by the unconscious brain rather than a pool of mystic energy.
…you have no experience in the matter at hand.
True.
Basically your opinion lacks credit with no experience to make valid commentary.
Why? Why can’t I have and express an opinion based on my own life experiences and knowledge of how the body works? I might have different opinions if I had experience with Chi/Reiki, but not having any doesn’t make my opinions any less valid.
Originally posted by cheatah
There was one guy who had difficulties from his ex-wife about intimacy, touching,etc… Apparently his marriage really killed off many senses in his life, and he was having problems to start new relationships…. After one month or so, some of the exercises we were doing in the class started opening him, and he said that for the first time in his life he felt something moving in him again, and he was participating from his heart… At the end of the course, he thanked the instructor and all of us, and he said that he is much more open to hugging, loving, giving and receiving love(energy)
Could these classes and the group’s acceptance of the man and their desire to help him not be viewed as a form of psychotherapy that helped him overcome a difficult time in his life? Must it be attributed to the flow of mystic energy within him for it to have been beneficial?
Originally posted by dk75
Again, if westla doesn't want to hear about chi, there are many other threads, this was just interesting to some of us who have experienced it.
If some of the members here want to believe in tantric methods and want to apply them in their PE routines, it’s none of my business. I originally responded to the massage techniques quoted from the book based on my studies of human physiology. Gottagrow has dismissed me now, so I guess you can continue the thread as a discussion of the various massages as it was intended by cheatah and I’ll watch from the sidelines.