The All-Encompassing Drug Thread (no, not illegal drugs!)

Just sent you a PM. I’m not sure if I’d be breaking the rules posting it publicly.

Well… the thread was specifically about drugs, not supplements. There are thousands of supplements for which different companies claim all sorts of miraculous results. In a study by the CDC, d-aspartic acid has been shown to increase leutenizing hormone, which in turn should increase endogenous testosterone, but LH can never increase endogenous testosterone (testosterone produced within the body) to the same levels that injections of testosterone can achieve. Drugs like HCG also increase LH, but HCG is typically only used by bodybuilders to either increase endogenous testosterone production at the end of a steroid cycle, or to prevent testicular shrinkage during a cycle. D-aspartic acid might produce a modest increase in T, but it’s not a miracle supplement.

In regards to citrulline, I could only find one single scientific study on it, and that study said that its effects on the blood vessels were actually caused by arginine. Arginine is a metabolite of citrulline and the arginine is what actually causes the blood vessels to relax. You’d be better off just buying l-arginine at the health food store and letting your body bypass the citrulline and go straight to the arginine. Citrulline is suddenly the “new big thing” in health food stores, and the fancier the bottle, the more expensive the product. It’s a fad. It MIGHT produce a very subtle effect, but the people who are raving about it are either shysters or they are just raving about the placebo effect. Citrulline is never going to produce results as pronounced as PDE5 inhibitors (Viagra, et al).

So… I have to respectfully disagree with you that those two supplements are “all you need”. They probably have a minor effect in some people, but they aren’t miracle supplements.

As you said, Vitaros is just another brand of alprostadil, which I discussed above under Caverject. It’s obviously a better delivery system than the other alprostadil drugs. Hell… you could turn it into a fun game by having your wife or girlfriend rub it on the glans! That’s definitely better than sticking a plastic rod up your urethra or sticking your dick with a needle.

Stendra is actually a new PDE5 inhibitor which I had never heard of. It’s different than Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra, but it works the same way. It was just approved by the US Food and Drug Administration last year. It’s claim to fame is that it apparently kicks in more quickly than the others. Here’s a copy and paste from prostate.net. This explains the differences in the four approved PDE5 inhibitors:

How Fast Do ED Drugs Work?
Some erectile dysfunction drugs work faster than others, and food can be a contributing factor
Cialis: 15 to 45 minutes, food has no effect
Levitra and Staxyn: 25 minutes, but can be delayed if taken with a fatty meal
Stendra: 30 minutes, food not believed to have an effect
Viagra: 30 minutes, but can be delayed if taken with food

How Long ED Drugs Last
The erectile dysfunction drugs differ in how long a man can expect to be able to achieve an erection. Actual times can vary, depending on the dose taken and other factors.
Cialis: 36 hours
Levitra and Staxyn: 4 to 5 hours
Stendra: more than 6 hours in some patients
Viagra: 4 to 5 hours

By the way… Staxyn is the same drug as Levitra but it’s sold in a sublingual form.

I just remembered another drug which affects us “down there”. Cabergoline is used to treat Cushings disease, Parkinson’s disease, and several other diseases. Some bodybuilders use it to treat gynecomastia (bitch tits). The side effect that we care about is that it reduces the refractory period, which means in some men it allows them to have multiple orgasms. They can maintain an erection after an orgasm and have several orgasms in quick succession. I’ve never tried it, but after reading about it I’d sure like to.

I can tell you have never took either. So read up all you want…but I’m telling you DAA is very good. I realize that this is a drug thread. I would rather put amino acids into my body then drugs. But instead of researching it for 30 mins go get yourself a container and try it for 4 weeks. Then come back and disagree.

You can post your experiences publicly since these are not considered controlled substances. I would like to read about your dosing and experiences with some of the substances you posted, mainly with clomid.

Thought of another, but I thought it deserved its own thread. Hibiclens, also known as chlorhexidine, is great for uncircumcised men to use to wash their penises. It’s kills the bacteria that cause stinky smells. Here’s a link to the other thread where I wrote about it: Uncircumcised men, REJOICE!

Old thread, good info. Still, I don’t know whether to find claims like this suspicious or inspiring. It does seem strange that in the age of smart phones there aren’t more progress photos to validate substantial gains. Oh well. I guess I’ll just go with inspiring and be happy if I can gain at even half this rate.

We should keep this thread going. There are many drugs that increase nitric oxide in the blood vessels and that helps erections. I just read about statins. I’ve posted about bystolic before too.

Anything that is Nitric Oxide generating like nitroglycerin (topically especially) is something to look into. Rogaine topically is also something to think about to add to a PE regimen.

Interesting thread.
Currently on a HGH cycle myself, subq at 6.75iu/day. Have been on for 2 months.
Also using relatively high dose Primo E and a trt dosage of test with HGH cycle.

What dosage and frequency were you using when you were injecting HGH directly in the penis?

I’m presuming you were using a 30g half inch slin syringe directly into the corpora cavernosa?

Jim, if you look in the upper left hand corner of a post you will see the date it was posted. You are responding to an 8 year old post.

If you look in the lower left area of a post you will see the profile button. If you click on it, you will find lots of information on that member, including the most recent time that member was logged in. In this case Sam1966 was last here in 2013 so it is doubtful that he will be responding to your post.

Lol sorry about that. Forum tabs were slightly difficult to see on my phone with my aging eyes. Not likely he’s going to reply after 8 yrs.