A question about bathmate

Hi all.
I have researched throw thunder and some other sites and I saw a lot of information about the bath mate.
I thought about purchasing it but there are too more sites and probably a lot of scam’s.
At the end I saw there are maybe 2 main sites dealing with the bath mate:
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2.

I have already seen in some threads a lot of opinions about the bath mate. What I would like to ask if there is any
Among you PE guys who can tell which site is more reliable and better.

Cheers
Dan

5 days ago you were asking for routine suggestions. Why are you wanting to spend a lot of money on a pump, which on it’s own is probably an ineffective method at best, when you don’t even know whether PE works?

Both those sites are potentially spammy, so I altered them a little.

Check this thread if you are committed to a bathmate: How To Save 150$ On A Bathmate

Amazon.com or ebay.com. Why spend money on a bath mate I seen some sites asking $100’s or dollars which seems stupid to me, and if its true you were asking for routines suggestion I think maybe you haven’t found anything that works for you or you don’t know what to do. Trying to turn to a bathmate for easy and fast results is stupid. You cant just use a bathmate.

Hi,

I cannot advise about the best site to acquire a bathmate, but I must disagree with memento who says that the bathmate is at best ineffective.

I have been using an X40 for a little over a month and have already seen good gains by using it 5/6 days per week.

At first I was very doubtful about this device which is rather tricky to use correctly, but stick at it and you will soon get the hang.

This is when the gains start to show.

Regards

>I have been using an X40 for a little over a month and have already seen good gains by using it 5/6 days per week.<

Pumping is great for false hope and bathmates doubly so. Add up the fun of pumping and the temporary gains from fluid buildup that the bathmate particularly is prone to produce and it’s clear to see why.
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danawtf,

UM Products/Bathmate, the company are also known for heavy advertising using sock puppet astroturfing accounts on forums to promote their products, so it’s very hard to know when you read anything positive about a bathmate whether it comes from a truthful source or someone working for the company promoting bathmate as a product. Here, we even see astroturfing accounts starting off as apparently ignorant of the bathmate, going though a “discovery” process, buying a bathmate and reporting gains.

Memento, would you detail the reasoning behind these statements or point to a thread where it’s addressed?

Sure,

Pumping is normally a constituent in a larger routine. Sensible pumping is done at low pressure for short periods. The lower the pressure the longer you can pump, the higher the pressure the shorter. Overdoing pumping leads to a buildup of lymph in the penis, leaving the penis larger and with a soft spongy feeling and sometimes leading to donuts. This temporary “gain” can be repeated ad infinitum by simply pumping every day. You go into the tube smaller, you come out larger. That is psychologically powerful, it doesn’t matter that a few days off and you would return to normal. Here, we tend to stress methods for permanent increase in size, there are other sites more attuned to the feeling of a post pumped penis for erotic purposes.

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The bathmate is a pump without a gauge, using an unforgiving medium (it’s hydraulic rather than pneumatic) . It’s no wonder that you can see pictures here and all over the net showing extensive fluid buildup from these devices. I don’t doubt that a bathmate could be used as part of a successful pumping routine, it’s simply much more expensive and a lot harder than other methods. I would guess that their choice of price point is largely because they realise they need a sophisticated promotion mechanism to overcome the problems inherent in the product. If they sold it for $25 like the Chinese sites (Unboxing my Bathmate) it would drown in the sea of other similar products.

Thanks, Memento. It seemed from the previous posts that you were suggesting that a pump somehow preferentially favored lymph, whereas manual methods did not. That was a head-scratcher for me, so I appreciate the explanation.

For what it’s worth, if donutting is an indication of overdoing things, then my experience is the opposite. Although effective (principally for girth), my manual routine regularly resulted in a good deal of fluid buildup, along with some unattractive discoloration. As I’ve noted in other threads, I’ve switched my focus to length and stretching at this point and am using my pump in the hope of gently maintaining my girth gains. (Feel free to comment on that strategy.) Five weeks into this new routine, and I’m pleased thus far.

I think any method that works using vacuum, favours the buildup of lymph, so vacuum extenders and pumps. Certainly jelqing and squeezes can cause lymph buildup but not to the level of over pumping. The mechanism seems to be different. Pumping creates an environment in which lymph wants to flow but jelqing and squeezes probably cause lymph buildup via the physical manipulation of the tissue pushing the lymph around and that’s probably the same mechanism that causes discolouration via the blood or constituents of the blood.

Donuts/doughnuts are definitely an indication of overdoing it. They become easier to create over time. I’m not sure why, maybe the paths are more easily accessible. You might consider condom pumping or wrapping with an elasticated wrap in the area prone to the donut, to allow the penis to heal in that portion.

As long as we see small amounts of lymph buildup as an unwanted but probably not completely avoidable side effect, we are probably on the right path. A post session hot wrap can help to dissipate lymph. A cold wrap or simply a dry wrap might do the same but you would have to try it or get confirmation from someone who has.

Your routine sounds interesting, it’s working the length and girth which is always a good thing. I’m not sure stasis works particularly well with PE though, it’s certainly a much longer path. I guess you will have to judge by the results and if you see your girth slipping, then add in some jelqing to disrupt (or tenderise) the tissue or consider Mr. Fantastic’s rather expensive dynamic pumping solution.

Hi All
Thank you for the comments.

Right now I am doing the newbie routine, means 5 minuets warm up, 5 minutes stretching (BTC and all directions) 10 minutes jelq, warm down.
Although I am new when one sees such a great reports on net, its quite clear one will ask the more experienced about it
In the last 2-3 weeks I have read so much information about PE, about ED, and everything’ on this site and also in pegym and matterofsize, and yes being a newbie entering to this jungle is well..

Ill try to post here how things going, and again, thank you for replying.

Cheers
Dan

Hi,

I just remembered the 3 points rule, so I tried to edit my last post but I couldn’t.

Cheers
Dan

Not sure about ‘false hope’, but I think I must be doing something right because I have definitely had gains, and my penis is not all puffy and soft with fluid, by the way!
However I have discovered that it is actually best to sometimes switch back to air pumping for a few days as this tends to stretch the penis and I think consolidate girth gains using the bathmate.
As a tool the bathmate is definitely better for girth than length development, so I imagine I will always include air pumping in my routine.

Incidentally I do not work for the bathmate company, I am just your average kind of older guy who wants to maintain a firm hard penis into old age.

Regards