A question about fatigue

Guys,

Just out of interest, how do you feel after a workout in terms of fatigue?

The reason I ask is that when I started my PE routines back in January this year, I would feel slightly sore, almost like a dull ache at the base of my lig after I’d worked out. This was obviously due to me not being conditioned enough.

However as time has gone on, even when I have increased the intensity, I just don’t feel anything the next day. There no soreness, no ache, no dull lig feelings, nothing. I just feel totally normal.

Over the past few months I’ve brought in some light pumping and some ADS to support my manual PE work, but I’ve seen no gains at all. I’ve hit the brick wall and am struggling to move forward. I just don’t know if it’s my routine or the fact that I’m not actually pushing myself hard enough. I’ve read a lot about not “pulling too hard” on stretches as this can actually tighten the ligs and make it harder to gain. But I’m not sure if I need to be pulling a bit harder to get that “dull ache” back?

Now I don’t know if this is just because I’m not working hard enough (or maybe over working), but I haven’t felt fatigue or any dull aches for a long time.

So my question is, has anyone else experienced this? By not having this “dull ache”, does that just mean I’m conditioned now, or does it mean that I’m not pushing hard enough?

Your thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated :)

Can you post your routine? It might help people with advice.

In general, a little soreness is a good sign you had a good workout. Obviously not too much. If you’re really feeling no soreness at all, then something is not quite right. Personally, even when I am conditioned, I have some soreness after a good workout.

My routine? Sure.

Before I’m asked, I have completed what is deemed the “newbie routine”. My approach now is to try and mix things up a bit and keep my body guessing. I’ve read threads on Thunders that have supported this approach. So with this in mind, I have three different routines that slot into my week that hopefully keeps my body “on it’s toes”.

Therefore I have three main routines that I mix about.

Routine 1 - Pump day
- Pump at 5 in/HG for 10 minutes ensuring that the tube is wrapped with a rice sock for heat
- Release pressure and massage / jelq for 5 minutes
- Re-apply pump at 5 in/HG for another 10 minutes.
- Release pressure and jelq / massage and stretch for 15 minutes.
- Warm down.

Routine 2 - Non-Pump day 1
- 10-15 minute warm up with rice sock
- 35 Tension stretches (progressively adding 2 reps a week)
- 35 semi erect (75%) squeezes (progressively adding 2 reps a week)
- Warm down

Routine 3 - Non-Pump day 2
- 10-15 minute warm up with rice sock
- 2 x 5 way stretches holding each stretch for 30 seconds. After each stretch, 10 rotator stretches left and 10 right.
- 1 x BTC stretches (left, right and straight behind), holding for 30 seconds each.
- 15 minutes wet jelqing at 50-75%.
- Warm down.

I’ve also in the last few weeks added some light ADS. I have a silicon cup attached on a bungee to a strap just below my knee and have been working from 6-8 hours a day.

I also have the Autoxsleeve package, but unfortunately I’ve not been able to use this during the day at work as you can see the massive bulge in my pants haha!

You might also ask what my PI’s are like? Absolutely fine. I get morning wood nearly every morning, my dick is nice and pliable and it stretches well. It’s just that I don’t seem to be gaining at all.

I’ve been on the above “mixed routine” for a month with no results so far. Although PE is not a race, I don’t feel as if I’m really being effective, so your thoughts, support and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Finally, I’d say that I’m doing my workouts around 5-6 days a week. My aim is to keep things fairly light but consistent to try and encourage growth.

Thanks again.

It’s possible that your ligs won’t stretch anymore, in which case you should be focusing on the Tunica and/or smooth muscle fibre.

Ok, so I guess it’s time to use the search function to find some routines that will help me with this :)

To give you an idea of my recent workouts for October, I’ve put a snapshot of my log below.

Monday 5th October – Non-Pump day 1

Oh I dunno guys….please someone slap some sense into me!

I always hear this but how exactly do you focus on the tunica and smooth muscle? What routine is out there for specifically that?

Hmm, interesting problem. Four days on seems a little excessive in my opinion, but then again i’m definitely a less is more candidate. I’ve found recently that long sessions of pumping can almost “mask” negative PI’s, perhaps this is the case with you.

Personally I would recommend taking a two week decon break (closely observe the results of this); start back up with just manual exercises (some V/A stretches, Jelqs etc) to adjust to your unit’s new sensitivity. I would also recommend not doing any form of girth exercise for more than two days in a row.

Once you’ve been exercising again for a week or two, slowly phase your pump/ADS back in, I would however do this slowly with great attention to PI.

I think you have forgotten two of PE’s most important metrics for success!

Consistency and patience.

You routine has almost no consistency. Yea, its good to keep the penis guessing, but not EVERY day! Focus on length exercises - stretches, jelq’s, etc. - for 3-4 weeks at a time and THEN change it up and do girth for 2-3 days and then go back to length. Find a steady routine.

Newbie gains always come quick, but when they are done be prepared for things to slow down.

When this happens you may need to PE for 6 straight months just for a quarter inch (most vet’s would be ecstatic about 1/4 inch in 6 months).

If it makes you feel any better, it took me two YEARS to figure out how to get the feeling of fatigue again. I had to do a lot of playing with my dick and a lot of research, but I found it and i’m growing again. You know what did it? Fowfer’s.

Thanks Whisky :)

You’re right, I need to get some control over what I’m doing. I know how I’ve got to this stage and it’s quite simple. Because I’ve not been “feeling the burn” or the dull ache after my workouts, I’ve just increased what I’m doing. When that didn’t work, I started to throw in some different exercises. The net result is that I’ve ended up with a whole load of exercises mangled into odd days and I’m getting nowhere with it.

So, time to put some things into order. What do I want to achieve? Well length is my goal as my natural girth is around 6 inches anyway, so I’m not too concerned with increasing this straight away.

I really do think that I’d get some joy with hanging, but I’ll need to investigate that a bit more before I start. There seems to be a lot of options out there and I want to make sure that I do it right.

I just need to sit down and try and work out a good routine that WILL fatigue me. It’s not about number of reps, but more to do with doing something that will really stress and tax my unit, just like it was tested in my early PE days as a newbie.

I think the biggest problem with PE is that there is so much information out there and it’s so hard to know where to turn next when you need a fresh approach. I could go back to stretches and jelqs again, but I’m really not sure if they would test me how they used to.

Frustrating times, but I am committed to achieving my goals. I will not give up!

Good information and I think the responses are excellent! I’m with Sophomoric on this one - take a break. Two weeks minimum and maybe even a month. It’s tough to do that (I know!) but I think it might help. So, 2+ weeks off, then start a consistent program. Two days on, one day off at first.

I see that you have the ADS in there too. I think extending the penis is crucial for length gains. I use an Ace bandage for about 3 hours a day (loosely wrapped - see my Birthday post for more details on it) almost every day - off day or not. I think that’s where the healing/expansion comes in. I’m not really sure if it helps with girth though, so if that’s your goal, maybe I’m out of place.

Thanks for the sensible responses guys. I’m going to take a break and then follow Shunga’s hanging routine as I think stretching is the way to go :)