A small question about the beginning of the path for experienced guys

Good afternoon! I’m new here and I’m glad I found this place. I have studied the program for beginners, got acquainted with the initial information and am ready to start just a few days ago.

Initially, I only knew about extenders and really wanted to buy it, but now I do not know if it is worth it (there is not much extra money)

However, I have the opinion that starting to stretch with an extender will be smoother and safer for a beginner, don’t you think?

Should I buy an extender, stretch with it for about a month and add a manual program, or don’t worry and start the program for a beginner right away? If so, is an extender useful?

There are two main types of extender: ones that use a loop (noose) behind the glans, and ones that use a vacuum cap and sleeve. Noose extenders can be finicky to put on and need to be removed periodically to allow blood to circulate in the glans. They’re inexpensive and not too bulky, and a lot of men start off with one. Some men can wear one out in public under loose clothing.

Vacuum extenders tend to be more expensive and quite bulky, but can be worn for long periods of time. The same cap and sleeve might also be used for an all-day stretcher or a hanger.

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Like all other forms of penis enlargement, extenders take time and discipline. I would recommend starting with the Newbie Routine. It isn’t fancy, but it’s proven to give results, and it doesn’t cost any money. It will let you develop the habit of doing PE. A lot of men think, "Oh, that looks easy, I can do that", but they find it’s tedious and boring, and they lose enthusiasm when they find that noticeable progress takes months or years.

After completing the Newbie Routine you might want to add an extender or other device for variety. You’ll have good PE habits and the device won’t become something you use a few times and then sits in a box in the closet until you get around to throwing it away.

Understood you. I just thought that the extender would be simpler, safer and more convenient for a beginner, although manual stretching has the advantage that it takes less time.
I guess I’m struggling with the idea that it’s impossible to achieve something with my own hands, but it looks like I’m wrong. I will try to do a beginner’s program for 3 months, and then, judging by the results, I will most likely think.

Extenders are nice in that you can use them hands-free, vary tension with some degree of accuracy and consistency and some are even useful for wearing under clothes for longer duration with lower tension, while being able to use for more intense, higher tension session, as well.

But they are an investment in both money and time to learn to use them well. Definitely worth a consideration at some point, which is different for everyone, especially if money is a barrier.

But many men get great results with manuals that continue for some time. So it’s not a bad idea to start there and see where it takes you, both in terms of results and in seeing if PE is a thing you might want to continue for a while, before you invest in equipment.

But some guys go straight to hanging or extending, so it’s really up to you.

Once you are ready to invest in some equipment, there are many options, so check back in and the community will be happy to offer perspectives.

Good luck!

Check this video. This guy is an MD and gained a bunch of length with just manuals. Now he has a Youtube channel with PE instruction. He is also one of the founders of the gettingbigger subreddit:

Here’s a short video of both length and girth training tips:

Thank you so much for your help, a lot has become clear and I am ready to go to the top.
I would also like to know your specific opinion. Would it be more useful to do a routine for beginners in parallel using an extender, or is it better to grow on a beginner program for now and when growth slows down /stops connecting an extender?
In general, I can buy it now and do it together. But if free methods work, then it’s probably best to make the most of it. The only thing is the fear of injury, I hope it will do without it

Reflex,
The Newbie Routine is about more than just being new. It’s a sort of misnomer in many aspects. It familiarizes you with your body and teaches you what you can and can’t handle, at the same time prepares and conditions your penile tissues for more advanced and strenuous work.

A positive caveat is that like many before you, you could potentially gain from it, and you wouldn’t have any other investment aside from your time. Perhaps you buy the equipment, get all strapped in, do a few workouts and then decide it’s not for you or you give up altogether.

I would start with manual exercises first. See if you enjoy the process and how it feels. No matter what, you’ll want the least amount of time, effort, and investment that will still return gains. Just starting out if you throw the kitchen sink at it you could wear yourself out or worse, succumb to an injury. In that case you’ll end up starting over anyway, when you really should’ve started with a minimalist approach at the beginning.

Keep it as simple as you can.

-Stay safe

Agreed. Think of training in 3 or 4 components:

1. Length work
2. Girth work
3. Erection quality support
4. Sensitivity training (to be able to last as long as you want and finish on command)

Maybe there is more, but those are off the top of my head as the main categories.

There is really no need to do more than one modality per session of 1 and 2. So a manual stretch session (which is high tension, short duration) plus a high-tension, short duration extension session is just redundant and probably neutral to negative. Some guys do very light tension all-day stretching (ADS) after a higher tension short length session just to keep things elongated but the jury is out if it is effective or not. And not needed for a newbie.

Same for girth work, especially for newbies. Once you are more conditioned you can decide if you want to stack or ladder some girth modalities, but that is months away from a starting point.

The best approach is to do the least necessary to be effective. The issue as you continue on is, like a lot of other types of physical training, the farther down the road you get in PE, it seems the more stimulus you need to keep the growth coming, or you have to take breaks to de-condition the tissues. At least that is the experience of many.

So for as long as you can, take advantage of the "minimum effective dose" approach. Someday you might miss the days when you were growing well with just 30 minutes of manual stretches.

Categories 3 and 4 are more involved and complicated, but worth attending to with research and some effort, so consider keeping those categories as part of your enhancement regimen if either are an issue. Sometimes PE can change your current EQ and sensitivity, so keep an eye on them even if you’re good for now.

Free not free that should never be a factor. Only what is best for you.

One of the number one issues with any PE is starting too strong too quickly. I assume you are ready to start? PE is not a race but many assume it is, many people want a good start and sprint out the gate. This is not a race but a marathon. Once you think like this, you will notice that it doesn’t matter what PE you are doing as long as you know you will never push too much in any session because gains don’t come from one push but a collection of pushes. That is the reason there are so many injuries.

IMO, the best is manual lightly while you understand your body. Then you go to extenders and understand how to wrap, since you have used your hands a lot you know what feels right. Jelqing may or may not be for you but manuals and water pumping is for everyone but everyone might not get the gains from those two. You know what I mean!?

Another example is food. Sample around, don’t go to a buffet and just do one dish, try a couple lightly and see what is best for you, don’t stuff your face because you want to try everything right now. Then narrow down and say for the next 6 months I like this, in 6 more months I will combine this and that. In year two I will only eat this and in year 3 I eat this and that.