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Whacky, Which machine did you purchase. I’m looking into shockwave and need something that works, buts inexpensive?

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Ehh, good to know. I was considering springing for the real deal which could cost several grand, but there’s no way I’m going it if it doesn’t even give you gains.

While an eswt unit may not be a primary option for PE, it does have positive benefits for overall penis health and EQ. ESWT improves ED by enhancing blood flow in the penis and by breaking up plaque buildup in the blood vessels which restrict blood flow.

Is it worth several hundred or thousand dollars to purchase a unit to get these benefits if one doesn‘t have ED? That decision is a personal one.

Agreed 100%. Sorry if my post was sort of dismissing the potential benefits for treating ED.

No prob, just wanting to get the full information out. I also meant that any dick can get a benefit from eswt, not just those of us with ED. The real point is of course is it worth the money? Those with consistently high EQ would probably think it’s not worth the money for the small amount of EQ improvement you may get. In that case, find a bud with one and borrow it.

I have just bought one of these machines and am wondering about those ED Heads. Have you used them? I have read of Dicklimppen’s very helpful blog and he seems to sticking to the 15mm concave head,

As Dick explains you can only get higher P and Freqs on the general setting and the ED specific setting only allows low P and Freq. I suspect the chisel head is for the CCs and the small circular one is for the Crura (Taint). If we can get these to work the use of the lower energy settings should prolong the life of the machine.

Just got the machine, Ginha HL-3500 and only used it once with the 15 mm head but got a feeling it might be helping - a little tingling the next day just like after a good PE session. I did not feel the need for any gel etc.

Regards Austfred

Hi Austfred.

I tried the round transmitter head at low power and frequency, it hurt. I read the article of the guy who did gainswave for his blog and he used numbing cream. You don’t need numbing cream with the 15mm head at higher frequency. So I am lost without some instructions from the manufacturer I don’t know which way to go.

I did use the 15mm head for treatment and have seen improvement of my ED. I am not totally cured, my erections are stuck at about 80%. Since starting treatment I have had only 1 spontaneous erection without physical stimulation.

While reading Dick’s blog recently I came across his post (with link to the paper) for the Srini protocol and am in the early stages of testing it.

The Srini protocol suggests a focused treatment (convex head) with 0.09 mj/cm2 at low frequency of 2Hz promotes better vascular stimulation, It also treats only one side of the penis (base, center and at the glans) plus both sides of the crura, each with 300 pulses 1500 total.

I’ve conducted three treatments in the last two weeks, so is early, but seems like it is a positive. The bang bang bang of the slower frequency is actually a little more uncomfortable than the faster 15Hz pace I had been using. Initially I used a condom on the treatment wand to keep the gel from getting in the head; now I use the blue caps that came with the kit and fit the largest treatment head perfectly. They do not fit the smaller treatment heads well but with effort can stay on.

FYI I characterize my ongoing eswt use as maintenance treatments. I dont believe there is a cure for ED but by continuing to treat it I can keep it at bay.

Hi 32quarters

Why convex instead of concave. Convex would spread out the shockwave whereas concave would focus it.

This is so confusing, need a definitive protocol proven to work.

The three treatments in two weeks could actually be perfect frequency when doing ESWT continuously in regular basis.
ESWT does cause celular damage and to heal them effectively the minimum of four days between is needed.
This is something which has came up on my ultrasound studies.

I look forward seeing your experiences with the ESWT.

Kyrpa thanks for picking up on my error- I should have said concave, not convex. Previous treatment protocols used the 15mm convex treatment head, Srini used concave, which for my system is also a 15mm head.

I think it was Whacky but you are welcome anyway.

Sorry Whacky, thanks Kyrpa. Having a tough morning apparently.

My original Gainswave treatment protocol was twice weekly for three or four weeks, followed by three months off. The number of treatments (6,7 or 8) depended on your response.

Similarly when I had my first P-shot there was a 3-4 month wait before the doctor would consider another shot.

The down time was to allow time for the treatment to fully work and receive the benefits.

I have somewhat followed that downtime principle in my self treatments and generally my schedule has worked out that I have enough 6-8 week gaps between a series of self treatments that it I think it works out just the same.

Ultimately my gauge is my EQ- if it seems to be weakening I know I need to increase my treatment frequency. Not an overly scientific process but it works well enough for me.

Wow I haven’t been to Dick’s blog in a long time, lots more stuff to digest.

Thanks 32quarters for the heads up. Reading all his blog again, between reading and shockwave treatments and PE I don’t have any spare time. hahahaha

But I will have a dick that works, eventually!!