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I am bummed out, I read the entire article from nhi.gov and it doesn’t mention radial shockwave.

“The device most commonly used in these RCTs was a focused electrohydraulic unit; however, an electromagnetic unit or a piezoelectric linear therapy source was also included for comparison.”

I am wondering if my radial machine isn’t getting the job done and that may be why I am stuck at only 80% effective erection.


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Hi Again Austfred

I looked up the GTNHA 3500, that is way different than the machine I purchased. Here is a link to the machine I purchased.

| eBay


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After Gainswave I was ranging in that 80%-100% EQ and was frustrated with the inconsistency. I never knew what I was going to have until time to do the deed. Much much better than getting ready to do the deed with a limp noodle which was the case pre Gainswave.

That’s when I decided to try a cock ring and have used it every time since then. With a c ring I am in that 100% - 110% range. Yep, got a nice girth bump from it. I have continued to have girth gains and am hitting 6.25” more frequently.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

I might have to try a c-ring to get to 100% erection.

Been searching ED machines on ebay and came across this one, it has rubber caps for the ED transmitter heads. Mine has the transmitter heads for ED but I didn’t get the rubber caps, dammit.

Wonder if I can make rubber caps with some kind of mold from a hoppy shop?


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That is the same style wand I have, and the same style covers. However, mine only had one size which only fit the larger head.

I then used a condom to cover the head and keep the gel out. Condoms worked well but have to be replaced.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by whacky76
Hi Again Austfred

I looked up the GTNHA 3500, that is way different than the machine I purchased. Here is a link to the machine I purchased.

| eBay

Well Whacky this is the one I bought https://www.ali express.com/ite … 0341738215.html

Certainly looks similar to yours. I believed it to be a GTNHA HL 3500 because it had a bit of blue foam packing inside the box labelled "Ginha HL-3500"

Anyway have you found out anything more about the 2 black ED Heads?

Anyway got brave and tried the black circular one last night initially at the ED setting (P=1. Freq+!) and then gradually upped it to P=5, Freq=5 on both my CCs and Crura for about 2000 pulses in total and it worked fine. Did not use any gel. No bruising and feels fine the next morning. Yet to try the screwdriver one.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
While reading Dick’s blog recently I came across his post (with link to the paper) for the Srini protocol and am in the early stages of testing it.

The Srini protocol suggests a focused treatment (convex head) with 0.09 mj/cm2 at low frequency of 2Hz promotes better vascular stimulation, It also treats only one side of the penis (base, center and at the glans) plus both sides of the crura, each with 300 pulses 1500 total.

I’ve conducted three treatments in the last two weeks, so is early, but seems like it is a positive. The bang bang bang of the slower frequency is actually a little more uncomfortable than the faster 15Hz pace I had been using. Initially I used a condom on the treatment wand to keep the gel from getting in the head; now I use the blue caps that came with the kit and fit the largest treatment head perfectly. They do not fit the smaller treatment heads well but with effort can stay on.

FYI I characterize my ongoing eswt use as maintenance treatments. I dont believe there is a cure for ED but by continuing to treat it I can keep it at bay.


Anyway got brave and tried the black circular one last night initially at the ED setting (P+1. Freq+!) and then gradually upped it to P=5, Freq+5 on both my CCs and Crura for about 2000 pulses in total and it worked fine. Did not use any gel. No bruising and feels fine the next morning.

32quarters

> I dont believe there is a cure for ED but by continuing to treat it I can keep it at bay.

Think in my case that is right. However firstly I found doing PE has helped (eg using an extender and more so pumping) I have found dynamic pumping where you cycle the vacuum from high to low etc has really helped my EQ. Believe Dicklimpen’s doc got him to do something similar as an adjunct to Shockwave.

Originally Posted by whacky76
I might have to try a c-ring to get to 100% erection.

Been searching ED machines on ebay and came across this one, it has rubber caps for the ED transmitter heads. Mine has the transmitter heads for ED but I didn’t get the rubber caps, dammit.

Wonder if I can make rubber caps with some kind of mold from a hoppy shop?

Yeah I also saw that one

The black ED heads are longer than the others. I used the circular one without any gel or a cover. Worked fine without bruising. Suspect the trick is not to use too high a P setting

Originally Posted by whacky76
Hi 32quarters

Why convex instead of concave. Convex would spread out the shockwave whereas concave would focus it.

This is so confusing, need a definitive protocol proven to work.

Think I can answer this.

Given the Concave head concentrates the pulse you get a stronger shockwave but over a much smaller area for a given P setting so you have to move the wand more slowly as you treat the whole area. Think we have to remember these cheap Chinese machines are less powerful than the commercial gainswave units so you need to modify your technique to get a similar result. The focused concave head is one way of increasing the strength of the pulse. Another may be using the smaller black ED heads. Suspect the downside might be you need more pulses and move the wand more slowly as each pulse is treating a smaller area

Originally Posted by whacky76
Hi Austfred.

I tried the round transmitter head at low power and frequency, it hurt. I read the article of the guy who did gainswave for his blog and he used numbing cream. You don’t need numbing cream with the 15mm head at higher frequency. So I am lost without some instructions from the manufacturer I don’t know which way to go.

I did use the 15mm head for treatment and have seen improvement of my ED. I am not totally cured, my erections are stuck at about 80%. Since starting treatment I have had only 1 spontaneous erection without physical stimulation.

whacky Sorry I read your later post first and missed this one.

>I tried the round transmitter head at low power and frequency, it hurt.

I have been doing PE for many years now and perhaps my unit is conditioned . Anyway I gradually upped the P and Freq settings to 5 without any pain and more importantly no bruising. I was flaccid and used my other hand to hold it firmly against the wand as it pulsed. I only operated on the CCs (along the side) and the Crura ( the taint). Would not use it on the glsns (head) where I am sure it would have hurt. Years ago I did nerve damage to my glans rolling off a tight silicone sleeve and lost sensitivity for a while. Would be wary of doing shockwave in that area for that reason.

> I have had only 1 spontaneous erection without physical stimulation.

I am an old guy and don’t expect that anymore but do get the occasional morning wood (not super hard any more alas).

Hi Austfred

I don’t know if you have visited dicklimpin’s blog for shockwave, lots of great information there.

32quarters mentioned it so I went there today and found more info on treatment protocols and usage of the 15mm concave head but not the black transmitter heads.

I am thinking about trying to make my own silicone covers for the black transmitters but I am not very much into crafts.


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Originally Posted by austfred
Well Whacky this is the one I bought https://www.ali express.com/ite … 0341738215.html

Certainly looks similar to yours. I believed it to be a GTNHA HL 3500 because it had a bit of blue foam packing inside the box labelled "Ginha HL-3500"

Anyway have you found out anything more about the 2 black ED Heads?

Anyway got brave and tried the black circular one last night initially at the ED setting (P=1. Freq+!) and then gradually upped it to P=5, Freq=5 on both my CCs and Crura for about 2000 pulses in total and it worked fine. Did not use any gel. No bruising and feels fine the next morning. Yet to try the screwdriver one.

Hi Austfred

You purchased the exact same unit that I did. I am upset that it didn’t come with probe covers for the black transmitter heads. Today I found a machine on ebay with probe covers for the black transmitter heads.

I think 32quarters mentions the protocol we should be trying, low frequency (2hz) at 90mj with 300 pulses per application site. Top of shaft, bottom and sides and cura for 1500 to 1800 total pulses. Two or three treatments per week for 3 weeks, then a 3 week rest and recovery period then another 3 week treatment.


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Originally Posted by whacky76
Hi Austfred

I don’t know if you have visited dicklimpin’s blog for shockwave, lots of great information there.

32quarters mentioned it so I went there today and found more info on treatment protocols and usage of the 15mm concave head but not the black transmitter heads.

I am thinking about trying to make my own silicone covers for the black transmitters but I am not very much into crafts.


whacky

Yes there is a world of info on dicklimpin’s blog. That’s what convinced me to buy my machine.

>I am thinking about trying to make my own silicone covers for the black transmitters but I am not very much into crafts.

I used the circular one without a cover. If you do not use gel like me and take account of the fact that the probe is longer than the metal ones that come with a cover, I am not sure you need a cover. Just give it a wipe down especially if you don;t let anyone else use the probe. If you really want a silicone cover try this - put some cling wrap around the black bit and then apply some acid cure plumbers silicone over the cling wrap but not too thick. After it hardens peel it off and tidy it up with a sharp knife and remove the cling wrap and voila you should have a silicone cover though not sure how robust it would be.

Originally Posted by whacky76
Hi Austfred

You purchased the exact same unit that I did. I am upset that it didn’t come with probe covers for the black transmitter heads. Today I found a machine on ebay with probe covers for the black transmitter heads.

I think 32quarters mentions the protocol we should be trying, low frequency (2hz) at 90mj with 300 pulses per application site. Top of shaft, bottom and sides and cura for 1500 to 1800 total pulses. Two or three treatments per week for 3 weeks, then a 3 week rest and recovery period then another 3 week treatment.

>You purchased the exact same unit that I did.

Just about. The only difference I can see is mine does not have the word “massager” at the top of the control unit or “Ginha HL 1602” stamped on the inside of the lid.

The LED display on mine also records temperature. presumably the temp inside the wand to warn you if it is overheating. Does yours?

>I am upset that it didn’t come with probe covers for the black transmitter heads.

I am more upset that mine (or yours) did not come with a comprehensive manual Would have been lost without Dick’s Blog

Originally Posted by austfred
>You purchased the exact same unit that I did.

Just about. The only difference I can see is mine does not have the word “massager” at the top of the control unit or “Ginha HL 1602” stamped on the inside of the lid.

The LED display on mine also records temperature. presumably the temp inside the wand to warn you if it is overheating. Does yours?

>I am upset that it didn’t come with probe covers for the black transmitter heads.

I am more upset that mine (or yours) did not come with a comprehensive manual Would have been lost without Dick’s Blog

Your machine must be an upgraded unit, mine doesn’t have a temperature indicator. That will help you from burning the applicator handle up.


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