Couple of Lig/Stretching Questions

1. How do you locate the ligs? I feel these hard stringy things stretching from the top of the shaft at the base of my penis to near the head. They are connected to the inner penis, not the skin. There are two main outer ones, then a solid sort of mass inbetween them. Are those the ligs? Or some thrombosed vein injury I got from being a silly newbie stretching too much too quickly? If they’re not the ligs, what are they?

I’ve read the FAQ, and it seems to say what I’m feeling are the ligs. But I’ve also read threads where people are talking about “guitar-strings”, and they seem to be some sort of injury, so I’m not sure.

2. I read that Bib stretching with retracted foreskin is BAD. It can give excrutiating pain, impotence, etc. Is manual stretching with retracted foreskin bad? Coz that’s the way I’ve been doing it (after being told not to stretch holding onto the foreskin). It hasn’t felt painful… though I worry about my finger pushing down too hard on the dorsal veins/nerves.. would that be a problem?

Thanks for replies :) .

Hey Nedd seems like no one has replied yet (very unusual).

1. There are two types of ligs fundiform and suspensory which we are mostly initially interested in from a PE point of view (pic), they connect from the pubic bone area to the base of the penis wrapping around the chambers (CC/CS). There are other anchors to the root of the penis but when we talk of ligs its the fundiform and suspensory ligs we are talking about.

The ligs aren’t attached to the skin. If you feel across above and below the pelvic bone toward where the penis leaves the body. the little stringy things are the ligs.

The two chambers you talk about are the Corpus Cavernosa (often abreviated here as CC) and the small one below and between is the Corpus Cavernosum Urethrae more commonly referred to here as the Corpus Spongiosum (and abbreviated to CS) as the name implies this contains the Urethra

The guitar strings are different, probably you are feeling the dorsal arteries which (as is the way with arteries) are stronger walled than veins. You may also be feeling the top of the septum, so you’d probably count 2 or 3 strings.

All this is perfectly normal.

A thrombosed vein is hard. It is coagulated blood within the vein, though it may have been helped on its way by a small breach. Blood shouldn’t coagulate by default and when it blocks up the veins its rather annoying and can take 2-3 weeks to clear and if caused with the help of an initial rupture the vein wall may be weaker and hence easier to injure again. Oh and occassionally people die from thromboses :) when they break up and flow around the blood stream into the brain (Economy Class Syndrome).

2. I always did all my stretching with the foreskin retracted. In my opinion it is much better that way. Yes the dorsal nerves are annoyingly place from the point of view of PE but if you locate the web of flesh between thumb and forefinger over the top of the penis to stretch (ie overhand OK) you are offering the best protection. The most important thing with stretching is a good solid grip and not allowing the grip to slip, that and easing into a stretch.

For a detailed anatomy see Gray’s Anatomy though it kind of skips past some important bits so a search on anatomy would probably help.

Hope that helps..

Thanks a lot, that’s a great help :) .

So let me see if I’ve got this straight.. if you feel left and right along the pubic bone (where the bone pressed measurement is taken to) you feel the ligs. They really are stringy; there are lots of them and they have similar diameter to a string. It’s difficult to tell where they attach to the penis because, looking at the diagram, they split up and attach in different places.

Suddenly LOT theory makes a whole lot of sense!

So then what exactly is that hard thing I’m feeling? I’ll try to be clearer in describing where it is. It is on the top side of the shaft (_not_ the CS side). It exits my body just below the pubic bone (same place as dorsal vein), and goes right up to the glands, getting less distinct along the way. It is shaped kind of like an equilateral triangle with 1/2 inch sides. The flat side is facing up, and the pointy bottom side is connected to the Septum (the triangle doesn’t quite reach a point of course). Now, going by the diagram, the two hard things on the side I was feeling (the two points of the triangle not connected to the septum) are the dorsal arteries/nerves. The flat upper surface would be the dorsal veins.

I think the hard thing must be the dorsal veins/arteries then, so my question becomes: Are my dorsal veins supposed to be so _hard_?? They’re so hard I can’t feel them give at all when I squeeze. Are my dorsal veins supposed to be an almost rock hard equilaterial triangle with, at the pubic bone, 1/2 inch sides? I guess this thing _could_ be the Septum, but it sure feels nothing like the rest of the corpus cavernosa surface.

Thanks again.

P.S.

> Yes the dorsal nerves are annoyingly place from the point of view of PE but if you locate the web of flesh between thumb and forefinger over the top of the penis to stretch (ie overhand OK) you are offering the best protection. <

Great! That’s exactly the grip I settled on. Thanks.

>if you feel left and right along the pubic bone (where the bone pressed measurement is taken to) you feel the ligs….

Thats it.

>Suddenly LOT theory makes a whole lot of sense!
Yup its all about knowing what you are stretching?

>So then what exactly is that hard thing I’m feeling?
Sounds like the top of the septum. Often this is most noticable when stretched. Yes it is quite tough.

>I think the hard thing must be the dorsal veins/arteries then,
The arteries and veins are fairly obvious though the veins are quite soft. They should again feel fairly stringy, not 1/2” triangles.

Ahh, now I think I am feeling the dorsal veins on top of that triangle. So it must be the septum. Great, now I have a much better idea where things are, thanks :) .