Hanging: Too fatigued to hang max wight

I average 4-6 hours of actual hang time each day. My max is 17.5 lb and when fresh (rested), I can hang it fine for my first set, fatigue, lower weight slightly with each set and usually bottom out at around 7.5 lb for my last set. I try not to take off days and when I do, only One and then back to work. I usually hang one set on off days to break any adhesion’s from the previous day.

I can only max 12.5 now for my first set due to the fatigue from the previous day and have to reduce weight each set until I can barely do 5 lb where before I could finish out the day at 7.5 quite easily. I would like to know if hanging in heavy fatigue at lower weights is still effective in creating length, or if lower weight, regardless of fatigue, is not adequate in creating the necessary stress level to produce length gain.

I would hate to take time off to heal only to recover stronger, making fatigue harder to achieve, just to move up in weight. Moving up in weight is not even possible otherwise as I never rest long enough to recover to a state where my max weight can be hung.

Thanks

5 years between post… dang!

You know you are following Bibs recommendations to a tee.
Why the concern, just that the weight seems on the light side?

I just don’t have enough information to have the belief sparked motivation to invest long hours to lighter weight. If I knew that gains could be made sub 15 lb, I would.

Weight is only a number and used to hit fatigue, nothing more.
Bib would tell you hang time under fatigue is what matters. Weight is of no diffierence (as long as it causes fatigue).

V,
You are a successful PE’er who has put together routines that produced results.
Don’t second guess yourself, you are right on track.

Thank you, you’re a good guy.

That was the goal for me, to hang so much time that fatigue caused a downward weight cascade - and that’s when I would get the fast gains in BPFSL.

Did you end up gaining hanging a majority of your time under your max weight?

I hung in 1-2 month cycles, where I would get up to maximum time within the first few days, then increase weight gradually over a few weeks. Eventually I would get to fatigue where I would have to go down in weight for days at a time. I would ride the fatigue like that, going for more weight cascades over the next few weeks, and that is when I would get my BPFSL gains, usually around 0.1” per week during those last few weeks of the cycle. I could gain anywhere from 0.2” to 0.4” of BPFSL from a cycle like that, and that would eventually translate into around 0.2” BPEL. I repeated that same cycle once a year for 3 years I think, accounting for a majority of my post newbie length gains. But now I’m focused on girth gains.

Vanquish,

I just replied to Mike in a separate thread over in the hangers forum and it could be good info regarding your situation:
BIB 5 On / 2 Off?

Especially wanted to point out that while these periods of downward weight cascades, a.k.a hanging near total fatigue, are also times when the tissues are worn out, tired, fatigued - to the point of near injury, and that it’s also a time of caution. Be sure to identify when you have reached "total fatigue" and take at least a day off at that point. Or consider taking several days off (or even a month or more off) and starting a new fatigue cycle which worked well for me.

This was the information I was looking for. BIB says,

"IMO, I made my best gains when hanging to fatigue, and then hanging at a lower weight during the fatigue stage. I felt like the longer I could do this, the quicker I would gain. It worked for me."

I also learned I had things backwards in regards to off days making the tissues stronger. The idea being passed around on these forums is that healing makes the tissue stronger, making fatigue and ultimately gains, harder to accomplish. I suppose there is truth to that making gains harder after fully healing, but what Bib says makes more logical sense, that hanging makes the tissue stronger. Your body adapts to the new stress by strengthening the tissue. Time off does not.

The principles in those threads look solid. Hanging to fatigue, riding it down the weight cascade, hitting bottom, resting short or long periods, then repeating.

Thanks for the information Dragon.