I am having the PE surgery done in 2 weeks

You don’t have to, the forum has a record of everything that has been said. I am 100% right : ) But I do think we should get back on track with the original topic of the thread. There won’t be a whole lot more to say until I put up my pics and then until after I get the operation.

My thoughts exactly.

T. This is probably my fault. I posted some heated remarks that should have been posted several pages back when the thread was LIVELY. It had kind of calmed down before I stirred things up again. I apologize. But, hell this IS a very tender spot on this forum, as it well should be. I have a great deal of respect for the guys, and gal, who were trying to discourage a young man from making an impetuous decision. But I also have a lot of respect for the young man for having the balls to do something I probably wouldn’t have. But I do want to know all about it, as mem says, “Inquiring minds want to know.” I think 8-ball is offering us a great opportunity here. Not only is he going under the knife, but is allowing us to watch. If I could get away I’d gladly go to CA and film the whole procedure for him, for US. I too want to see some unbiased report with before and afters where no one stands to gain accept this forum. I mean what are we talking here, a round trip to CA and a hotel for the night and a videocassette. However, I’m sure someone on the doctor’s staff could do this; it would be up to the doc. Maybe for reasons of possible liabilities or the loss of trade secrets, he might have a problem with that. But any of the experience 8-ball can bring back to us will be better than what we have now. The important thing is that 8-ball brings 8-ball back, with his dick still attached.

So…..how ‘bout them Yankees?

8-Ball,

I sincerely wish you good luck. Regardless of your age, you come across as intelligent and well informed. Whether or not you have majority support at a natural penis enlargement website should not matter in your decision. It is your decision. Frankly, I would be surprised if you did recieve a lot of support here or anywhere else where manual dick stretching is the norm. What’s right for those other guys may not be right for you. I wish I was 21 again and had the opportunity for npe and surgery. I sincerely envy you young guys. Your attitude and expectations seem perfectly in line with what is the norm for the surgery. I look forward to reading and seeing more on this from you and from crash. He has done one helluva job enlightening us with information on surgeries, doctors, expectations etc.

Keep it up.

789

(Off topic subject- The World Series Champion Boston Red Sox are STILL ahead of the Yankers 4.5 games)

Surgery is a topic that scares the fuck out of everyone, myself included to some degree. That being said, I am confidant that I will get good results. Believe it or not I already feel like I’ve missed out on so many opportunities that having a big dick would have given me. I have had a few sex partners, but there were many times throughout HS and college (which I’m now finishing up) that I know I could have made a move and gotton sex if I had had the confidence. My insecurities over my penis size took this from me. Remember too that I bought my first PE paysite guide at age 15, I was in the 9th grade. If I had had half the success that some of the guys here had I could have had a monster by the time my senior year rolled around and I lost my virginity. This would have saved me a lot of grief as my first girlfriend made some mean comments that still haunt me to this day, and I certainly plan on settling that little score after I have the surgery.

I do appreciate the guys who spoke out against the surgery. If you think the dangers outweigh the benefits then you did the right thing by trying to dissuade me. I am just a little more frustrated by my lack of big gains, and I do not think that I am having any major breakthroughs at this point in my PE career after 6 years. I tried everything that can be tried. The only aspect of PE I didn’t master was hanging as I could never do it safely. I would be in extreme pain from the pinching and I could never figure this out regardless of what I tried. I jelqed, stretched, squeezed, uli’d, bent, smashed, pumped, edged, hanged, and clamped and at the rate I am going I’ll be in a nursing home before I come close to hitting my goals.

The concept of risk is a fascinating one and here you always here people use the phrase “you’re better off with a small/average dick that works than a big one that does not.” I am taking a risk of excessive scars, deformations, and losses of function and sensitivity, although these are all quite uncommon with the Alloderm girth enhancement. However by doing nothing I view that as a risk. I am totally unhappy and insecure about my penis size. I don’t see this going away any time soon. I don’t see myself gaining from NPE any time soon at this point. This affects me in my dealings with women in a very big way and my obsessions rear their ugly heads in other aspects of my life as well. I think about this stuff every day and it makes me very depressed. View this as a “risk” of not having the surgery done and maybe you will see why the expected risk/return of having the surgery seemed more in my favor.

In case you were left in the dark about this, bigger dick does not make all your problems go away. It can help with some of them, but it isn’t the end all be all answer. Not saying that’s how you feel, but some guys that get surgery have buyer’s remorse when it doesn’t solve everything going wrong in their life.

Overall I have a good life, I just have more anxiety over the penis size stuff than most guys my size would. All I’m really looking for is more size and a little more confidence.

I wish nothing but the best for you, even though I wish you would let us critique your current routine to see if we can help you naturally. :)

8-Ball,

I have a question for you. You mentioned that you couldnt get the feel of hanging in the past when you tried it. How will that effect your future post op gains, if at all?

I sort of curious to that as well. Aren’t you suppose to hang a lot Post-op? Will you bite the bullet and do it then, and if so, why not now?

I have read a few times from guys who say something to the effect of “if youre gonna hang later why not hang now” and I dont know if there is necessarily a connection. Because my pea brain logic tells me that hangin later with less ligs will give me more of a chance for length gains than prior to the operation.

I have talked to some other guy’s and they all have had erection problems. Ya you will get an inch but is it worth not being able to get it up. I think not.

Well erection problems would certainly hold me back from getting surgery thats for sure. Do you think the guys you talked to would be interested in telling their stories here at Thunders?

I do find it a bit hard to believe that erections after the surgery will be as hard feeling as a normal erection. I mean, correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t it alloderm tissue grafts that are placed on top of the blood filled tunicae? How could this be as hard as the blood filler tunicae alone? However, I really wouldn’t care too much if I was slightly less hard, since it did result in an inch of girth.